June 30, 2026 - Co-hosts Alison Despathy and Elizabeth Brown talk about the Natural Rights Project and Whole Systems Design

Jason Herron is with the Natural Rights Project in Vermont;

and Ben Falk is a Permaculturist, landscape architect, owner of Whole Systems Design in Moretown, and author of The Resilient Farm & Homestead: An Innovative Permaculture and Whole Systems Design Approach