Chase People, Not Money

In this first episode of the First Things First Podcast, we dig into a simple idea that’s harder to live out than it sounds: chase people, not money.

Money is a result, not a strategy. In business, leadership, and life, what you pursue determines what you eventually build. When relationships, trust, and service come first, growth follows—but when money becomes the target, everything else tends to suffer.

Matt Cordova, pastor and leadership expert, and Brazz Vanover, business owner and growth and leadership development strategist, break down what “chasing people” actually looks like in the real world. They talk through practical business examples, leadership decisions, and the long-term impact of choosing people over short-term profit.

This conversation is about sustainable growth, values-driven leadership, and building something that lasts—without ignoring the realities of business.

Whether you lead a team, own a business, or are figuring out your next step, this episode challenges the way success is measured and pursued.