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In this episode Bob and Randy ‘welcome Mike Kennedy, Founder and Chief Security Officer at Ostra Security, and Mel Kolinski, Sales and Channel Chief at Ostra. They dive into an open discussion about cybersecurity, highlighting the issues with transparency and honesty in the industry. Mike shares his experiences of starting Ostra and his motivations behind it, emphasizing the need for honest relationships and better security practices. The conversation also touches on the impact of AI on security, the problems of selling fear, uncertainty, and doubt (FUD), and the importance of a community-driven approach to improve cybersecurity standards. The episode wraps up with insights into the Truth in Cyber initiative, advocating for more ethical practices in cybersecurity.