Adrienne Chinn’s Three Sisters, Great War series offers readers an epic sweeping historical saga, perfect for fans of Lucinda Riley, and we’ve got The Paris Sister, Book #2, of this evocative saga, featured on the show today.
Hi there. I’m your host Jenny Wheeler. And on this week’s show Adrienne follows the Fry sisters as they enter the Roaring Twenties, forever changed by their experiences during the devastating years of war.
Bound by love, but separated by distance, their lives unfold in different corners of the globe, as they come to realize that the most important bond of all is family.
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Links to items mentioned in this episodeSyrie Maugham: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syrie_Maugham
The background to The Lost Letter, Adrienne’s first novel: Amazighs Culture: https://minorityrights.org/minorities/berbers/#:~:text=Amazighs%
What Adrienne is reading now:
Sarah Waters: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sarah_Waters
Lawrence Osborne: https://www.lawrenceosborne.net/
Isabella Allende: https://www.isabelallende.com/en
Aala Al Aswany: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alaa_Al_Aswany
Elif Safak: https://www.elifsafak.com.tr/home
Stacey Halls. www.staceyhalls.com
Where to find Adrienne Chinn onlineWebsite: https://www.adrienne-chinn.co.uk/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/adriennechinnauthor
Introducing Adrienne Chinn best selling author Adrienne Chinn, interior decorator and best selling novelistJenny Wheeler: But now here’s Adrienne. Welcome to the show, Adrienne. It’s great to have you with us.
Adrienne Chinn: Thank you so much, Jenny. I’m delighted to be here.
Jenny Wheeler: You’ve made a name for yourself as the author of beautifully crafted historical fiction.
Not to say that it doesn’t have a lot of action as well, but you’re very much known for the beauty of your locations, the sensory detail.
And that’s often more associated with standalone books and you have done some standalones, but you’re now engaged in this series, with Book #2 recently published.
Tell us, how did you translate from doing standalones to your Fry Sisters project?
Adrienne Chinn: It has been a learning curve for me, I have to say, but I’ve always been really fascinated about women’s development and women’s lives from the first 20th century.
I felt that required more than one book to do it properly. I was very much inspired by some of the stories of my great aunts, and my grandmother.
I decided to develop a series of four books starting in 1913 and covering the First World War in the first book, Love in a Time of War. And then the second book, as you said, which has just come out, The Paris Sister, set in the 1920s. I’ve just finished the third book which will be set in the 1930s.
And then there will be one final book set during the Second World War. Through all of this, we follow the lives of three English sisters and their mother, and see how their lives very much change.
They’re all in different, and they find themselves in different parts of the world. And it was a chance for me to also explore what was happening in the world at that time.
So much changed at the 20th century, and I found that fascinating to look into.
Real life parallels with the Fry sisters seriesJenny Wheeler: And there are quite a few real life parallels between your characters the three sisters, and your aunts as well, I believe. One of the sisters, for example, is a nurse on a hospital ship off Gallipoli, and one of your aunts was a nurse doing that job. Is that right?
Adrienne Chinn: That’s right. It was one of my great aunts. She was the sister of my grandfather. And I have an old photograph of her in her nurse’s uniform, sewing in a tent in Egypt. I didn’t know much about her, or her sister, or the other people that inspired the characters.
But I was so inspired by that image, that I felt that one of my characters had to become a nurse who found herself in Egypt and nursing through Gallipoli and then in Egypt during the First World War.
I ended up doing a lot of research about that and found out about the organization she was nursing for so I was finding a bit about my roots while I was also researching the book, which was quite fun.
Jenny Wheeler: The sisters are scattered over a wide field geographically. One of them ends up living in Alberta, Canada, and that also has roots in real life.
Adrienne Chinn: That’s right. My grandmother and my grandfather ended up in Canada. They were both from Britain. My grandfather was very fortunate to survive being in the British infantry from 1914 to 1918.
He did have mustard gas and shrapnel wounds and all the rest of it, but he managed to survive. And once it was over, he had a young wife and at the time, extremely young children.
My father was a newborn. He was born in 1920. And grandfather decided he’d had enough of Europe, he’d seen enough. He didn’t want any more to do with it.
Grandfather headed for CanadaHe took part in a soldier’s land settlement. whereby he was offered the chance to have some virgin land given to him in either Australia, New Zealand South Africa or Canada.
He applied for all of them, and he got to Canada first. He up sticks with his family and went off to Canada to become a farmer, which he’d never done before, and he had limited success at it, shall I say.?
He had been an auctioneer for his father’s company in Britain before the war.
Jenny Wheeler: So that also parallels your character in the story who is the son of an auctioneer. So that’s interesting too.
And with the third sister, of course, you have the chance to introduce some wonderful real life characters because she goes to Paris in the 1920s and she meets people like Ernest Hemingway and Zelda Fitzgerald.
That always presents the challenge of balancing fact and fiction and I wonder how do you keep that seesaw going between your own creative ideas and what you know really happened.
Adrienne Chinn: I read a lot. I particularly liked the character of Zelda Fitzgerald, who I find fascinating and I read a lot about the Fitzgeralds.
And I was inspired to bring her forward as a character rather than have Scott Fitzgerald being center stage.
I read a lot, and I ,made sure that when I placed them in Paris, the real people had been in Paris. When I mentioned her visiting Capri, Scott and she were in Capri.
So I was very careful to make sure that I always placed real characters where they were in real life.
I didn’t just suddenly plonk them there just because I wanted them there. I did that because my undergraduate degree was in English and history and I love history.
Weaving in true facts with creative licenseI really tried to weave through the basic information about these characters and I thought if Scott and Zelda were in Paris during the opening of the Art Deco Fair in 1925, they probably went, so let’s make them go to the opening party.
That’s where I took creative license, because we have no evidence they went there, but I thought it’s not outside the realms of possibility that they would have gone.
And, of course, the Fitzgeralds and the Hemingways knew each other in Paris, so I was always very careful, once again, when I had the Hemingways show up, occasionally, it was when they were in Paris, in real life.
I do try to be careful with things like that., I have an episode of The Paris Sister where Etta goes into the Shakespeare bookstore in Paris and she bumps into Hemingway, who is at the time speaking to the owner Sylvia Beach
That incident, him going in there and borrowing books from Sylvia Beach and using certain types of notebooks for his notes, that’s all from research I did.
And those were books that she actually told him to borrow. I did try to really be careful about making things real when I brought in the real characters. I enjoyed doing that, though I found it a little bit of a challenge.
Jenny Wheeler: Yes, I love the way you also mentioned Ernest Hemingway’s wife because, before she was resurrected a little, we hardly knew she existed.
Adrienne Chinn: Yes, that’s right. I mentioned her as well. But they’re all very peripheral characters in the story. Etta was in that social crowd in Paris, so she would have bumped into these people.so it was an opportunity to bring them in.
Love In A Time Of War – starts in CapriJenny Wheeler: It’s almost a trope now in historical fiction to be able to do that, isn’t it?
Adrienne Chinn: Yes, exactly.
Jenny Wheeler: Love in A Time of War, which is the first book in the series, you start quite masterfully right at the beginning by giving us a real clue that there’s going to be some complicated things happening in the story because it opens in Capri in the 1890s.
And you have the scene of a young woman sitting on a beach sketching and being viewed from afar adoringly by a young man.
And then in the very next chapter, you move on 20 or so years, a little over 20 years, and she’s married to somebody with quite a different Christian name, and she has three nearly full grown daughters.
So you immediately think, Oh gosh, what happened in the last 20 years?
Adrienne Chinn: Exactly. So what happened? Yes, and so that hopefully is the impetus for people to read and think what happened to a former young woman who’s now, 20 years older, she’s in her early 40s, and she’s got these three teenage daughters.
And so what happened that she is now, in England with a different husband and these daughters.
And very quickly, there’s an allusion to a secret that she’s got as well. Hopefully for the reader to be interested enough to read, to find out what’s going on in her life.
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Jenny Wheeler: And that thread weaves through the story so that even in The Paris Sister, it’s very strong and it hasn’t been completed.
It’s obviously going to be carrying into the third book as well. Now, tell me. when you do that kind of thing how do you write that in terms of your own process? Do you do a lot of outlining? How do you approach that?
Adrienne Chinn: I had to in this book. It was very different from, let’s say, The English Wife which I wrote previous to this.
It was a time slip book, where part of it was set in England in during World War II, and part of it was in contemporary Newfoundland at the turn of this past century.
And the second half of that book. I didn’t have to do a whole lot of research. I’m a Newfoundlander. I went back to Newfoundland, drove around, and it was a lot about making that part of the story up. But I did do the research about the parts of England that the character was in the first part of the book.
That was quite easy because it was one place, that character was only in certain areas of England at any given time, so I only really needed to research. those aspects of World War II.
Whereas in the series, I like to make things complicated by having several characters who end up in different places, with a lot going on in the world at that time.
I had to plot it in a way that I’d never had to plot before. And my process is I start with the characters, because they’re the ones who, for me, drive the story.
A best selling novelist’s working processAnd I create a really detailed character file online. I have a file. And I drop in pictures of actors or actresses or interesting faces online that I put with each character, and I write a little paragraph about each character.
What their full names are, what their birthdates are what they look like, where they went to school, what they like to eat, do they do sport, do they do art?
I try to, in my mind, create this picture of this character, and I do that for all of the main and the secondary characters.
So this document is hefty, but I enjoy that. By doing that, I start understanding the people in my story. And then I do another document where I take the pictures I’ve created of these different people and I pop them into little maps in a way where I say okay, who are the family members?
And I’ll drop in all the photographs of people who are in a family. Who is having relationships with whom? And I’ll put those pictures together. Who is the nemesis of whom? And I’ll put those pictures. So I start understanding, those relationships. So at once I’ve done all of that, then I go to plot out the story.
First I really have to get a handle on my characters and then I plot out the story. And for these characters, I had to plot out each story separately and then weave them together when they come together or write letters.
I plotted out Etta’s story, then Jesse’s, then Celie’s, and the mother’s, of course,
Knitting a novel together – Adrienne ChinnThen I color coded them and created little chapter files, or documents, where I’d say chapter one, and I’d say Etta, and I would have that in pink, or whatever color Etta’s was, and I would just then write a line or two about what has to happen in that chapter.
Then chapter two might be green, Jesse. And then I write a line or two about what’s happening in that chapter.
And all that way through, I did through that however many chapters, 60 something chapters.
And I made sure there was a balance of the characters through the book. I wasn’t spending too much time on one character and ignoring another.
I call it knitting a novel. It’s taking these pieces of wool and pulling them through together. That’s what I did, and it did take quite a bit of plotting because of these characters in different places,
Jenny Wheeler: Because you now have four books, how far ahead did you do that plotting? Did you do an outline for each book before you even started
Adrienne Chinn: No, I do one book at a time. I don’t know yet what’s going to happen in Book Four of the series. I just know who’s in it.
And I know my characters really well, I know where I want to go with the story, but I don’t know exactly how it’s going to transpire, which is good because it leaves it interesting for me.
And the characters, especially when you’ve been working with them for so long, really become real. And they really have personalities of their own and you find you can’t put them in certain situations. because they wouldn’t find themselves in those situations.
Or if you do put them in a strange situation, you have to really honor how they would respond to that, instead of just trying to manipulate them to do what you want them to do.
Research during pandemic lockdownSo they do step forward and tell you ‘no. No, that’s not going to work.’ Or, they really, I think it’s a little bit schizophrenic, but they do become very real which I find fascinating.
And these books have really brought my great aunts and my grandmother alive for me too, in a strange way. I’ve come to understand the women of that time much better.
Jenny Wheeler: Now we’ve mentioned that you are really known for your rich descriptive narrative. And I do get the feeling that some of these places, anyway you obviously will have visited, but you began writing the series in the middle of the pandemic lockdown.
Adrienne Chinn: Yes.
Jenny Wheeler: How did that all balance out?
Adrienne Chinn: That’s a good question. Love in A Time of War was written in 2020 when I was stuck at home, basically.
And as you mentioned, it starts in Capri, where I have been very fortunate to visit in the past/
About six years ago, quite a long time ago, so I had my photographs that I’d taken at the time, and I remember at the time, and I’d only been there a weekend, I hadn’t been there very long, but I thought it was a beautiful island, and I did walk around it quite a lot so I thought, oh, what an interesting place.
I loved the idea of the story of the Sirens which comes from that island too, and I liked weaving that into the sisters being Italian sirens.
The wonders of tourist pix on YouTubeSo I had the pictures and then YouTube is fantastic because I found tourists videos of them walking through areas of Capri. I’m going, oh great. So that street goes down and oh, and that one heads to the sea and the sea is on the left when they go down.
I was watching them walk through Capri and I was going, okay yes, that’s fantastic. Oh, that street is a cobblestone street.
Wonderful. Great. And I found a lot of photographs of old Capri and did a lot of research.
There are certain tourists “highlights” of Capri that weren’t there in 1890 so I had to be careful not to weave them into the background when they hadn’t been constructed at that time.
I did a lot of online research for that, but also I remembered certain elements of it. The scent of the rosemary, and the scent of the lemons, and how big the lemons were, and things like that, that I could use.
In Egypt, where Jesse is, I have been to Cairo. So I had a little bit of the feeling of that. But again, I haven’t been to Alexandria and some other places.
I had to do a lot of online research about how they looked and, Google Maps and street maps and postcards and all sorts of things
London’s easy because I’m here. So that’s fine. And Canada? Alberta in book two? I haven’t been to that part of Alberta, so I had to do a lot of research, but I have a sister who’s out that way. I could pick her brains quite a bit about locale and all the rest.
So yes, it’s pulling in information wherever you can find it and trying to be creative as much as you can while honoring the actual geography of the areas.
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