Saying What Matters 6 | The Body Knows Before the Mind Does
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In this episode of Saying What Matters, Oren Matteson and Rahsaan Nurullah talk about presence, emotional work, and what it means to create enough safety for someone to say something they have never said out loud. Oren reflects on his role as a therapist and why trying too hard to fix or solve can get in the way of being fully present.
Rahsaan shares how his own healing work has shaped the way he supports others, especially when someone is close to recognizing a pattern but still needs to arrive at it on their own. Together, they discuss the connection between the mind and body, the ways people are taught to ignore physical signals, and why listening to the body can become an important part of healing and change.
Key Discussion Points from The Body Knows Before the Mind Does
- Why presence matters more than trying to fix someone
- How therapists and coaches hold space for deeper self-discovery
- The importance of letting people arrive at change on their own
- Why saying something out loud can reveal what has been hidden
- How the body gives signals before the mind fully understands them
- The damage caused by pushing through instead of listening inward
- Rebuilding trust between the mind and body
- Using breath, sensation, and body awareness as part of healing
Related Episodes:
When a Father is Not Fully Present
Finding Compassion Without Erasing the Pain
Knowing When Something Needs to Change
Changing the Patterns That Keep You Stuck
Connect with us:
Millennium Counseling Center: Website
Oren Matteson: Millennium | LinkedIn
Rahsaan Nurullah: LinkedIn
More about Millennium Counseling Center and our hosts:
The Millennium Counseling Center in Chicago specializes in mental health services with a strong focus on various forms of addiction, including their premier program, 3A, which is targeted towards alcohol addiction. They offer various counseling methods, including one-on-one, couples, and group counseling, alongside an intensive treatment program emphasizing personalized attention, accountability, and acceptance.
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