Al From Forum Borealis joins me for a conversation about technology and consciousness. photo by: Skeptiko (machine generated transcript… very hit or miss :)) 0:00 – 0:07 on this episode of Skeptiko oh I think 0:03 – 0:10 the shaman thing may be wrong they may 0:07 – 0:15 be looking at a very underdeveloped 0:10 – 0:17 sense of manipulating aspects of 0:15 – 0:19 consciousness when we look at ancient 0:17 – 0:20 agriculture we say wow they did pretty 0:19 – 0:22 good they had that little stick and they 0:20 – 0:25 drove it in the ground and then they 0:22 – 0:27 stuck a fishin in the with every corn 0:25 – 0:31 seed and it grew hey good for them right 0:27 – 0:34 now we get a hundred times that by doing 0:31 – 0:36 all this kind of manipulation some of it 0:34 – 0:38 good some of it bad but we figured out 0:36 – 0:40 how to do that at a whole different 0:38 – 0:42 level oh I think we’re under impressed 0:40 – 0:44 of course there’s something you fail to 0:42 – 0:47 see in that reasoning look they were 0:44 – 0:48 having archaea consciousness or magical 0:47 – 0:50 mythical depends when we’re talking 0:48 – 0:52 about so that means that they were 0:50 – 0:55 dealing with the same things but they 0:52 – 0:58 were expressing and experiencing 0:55 – 0:60 differently look I said people had a 0:58 – 1:02 different kind of consciousness before 0:60 – 1:05 that means that what they perceive it 1:02 – 1:08 was also different people in nature like 1:05 – 1:11 Oz Norwegians we know the wages are very 1:08 – 1:13 artistic or I should say agnostic we’re 1:11 – 1:17 probably the most secular one of the 1:13 – 1:19 most secular in the world right now but 1:17 – 1:21 all the Weejun when they go to the 1:19 – 1:25 mountains when they go to the forests 1:21 – 1:28 they become extremely humble and they 1:25 – 1:30 connect with something now we prefer the 1:28 – 1:32 technical way to explain it rather than 1:30 – 1:34 the mythical because we lost from that 1:32 – 1:38 part of consciousness but it’s still 1:34 – 1:42 there and we still know about it I’m 1:38 – 1:46 leaning towards the idea that the 1:42 – 1:50 consciousness soul connection is not 1:46 – 1:53 what we think it is it’s not as special 1:50 – 1:58 it’s not as unique it’s more malleable 1:53 – 2:00 than maybe we’ve thought stay with us 1:58 – 2:08 for skeptiko 2:00 – 2:12 [Music] (continued below) Click here for forum discussion Click here for Al’s Forum Borealis website Read Excerpts: