Online Business Manager, Ashlee Berghoff, is our guest for the 166th episode of The Copywriter Club Podcast. Ashlee has helped a bunch of copywriters we know and like figure out how to make their businesses more profitable… and just as importantly, helped them focus on the work they are best at (while shifting other work to a VA or OBM). That sounded like something we needed to hear more about. So we asked Ashee about ….. • how she became an independent business manager/COO for copywriters • the 10 months she spent working to prevent human trafficking at IJM • when you should get help in your copywriting business • the different kinds of VAs and other help you might consider hiring • some examples of how she works with copywriters to grow • the systems she helps her clients develop as they start working together • the importance of discipline as you set up processes in your biz • what it really costs to work with an integrator versus a VA (and what you get) • the easiest systems to build that almost everyone needs right now • the return on investment when you spend money on a VA or OBM • the true cost of doing the work that others could be doing for less • how to keep your VA relationship from falling apart • some of the problems you should anticipate to keep the relationship working • where to find the best VAs… the answer may surprise you • what you need to put into a contract versus email • how to deal with problems when thing inevitably go wrong • the tools Ashlee uses in her business If you have a sneaky suspicion that your business could be doing better and that you need help to make that happen, you’ll want to listen to this episode now. Click the play button below or subscribe using your favorite podcast app. Or scroll down to read a full transcript. The people and stuff we mentioned on the show: International Justice Mission Global Fund to End Modern Slavery Rocketfuel Angie Colie April Dykman Asana Jira Asquaredonline.com Kira’s website Rob’s website The Copywriter Club Facebook Group The Copywriter Underground Full Transcript: Kira: What if you’re going to hang out with seriously talented copywriters and other experts, ask them about their successes and failures, their work processes and their habits,
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