October 25, 202101:02:59

Ep 74 - Consumer Empowerment in the Fight for Value, with Marshall Allen

Every year, millions of Americans are overcharged and underserved while the health care industry makes record profits. We know something is wrong, but layers of complexity make it confusing and discouraging to do anything about it - it seems impossible for most. Our guest this week is Marshall Allen, author of Never Pay the First Bill: And Other Ways to Fight the Health Care System and Win. Drawing on 15 years of investigating the health care industry, reporter Marshall Allen reveals the industry’s pressure points and how companies and individuals have fought overbilling, price gouging, insurance denials, and more to get the care they deserve and protect against the system’s predatory practices. The key message is that we, the consumer, can take back control of our health care. It is up to the American people to equip ourselves to fight back for the sake of our families–and everyone else. Consumers must lead the race to value. Episode Bookmarks:  01:40 An introduction to Marshall Allen and his work investigating the American healthcare system 03:35 The need for a grassroots consumer movement and employer-based disruption to reform a broken system 04:45 How Marshall’s work in investigative healthcare journalism was informed by his work in ministry 05:50 Marshall explains how the healthcare system’s business design violates the Golden Rule 08:15 “The business of medicine is conducted to maximize the profit for the industry, even at the financial harm of patients.” 08:30 Marshall’s new book: “Never Pay the First Bill: and Other Ways to Fight the Health Care System and Win.” 10:00 The victimization of patients that occurs through flawed system design and the “normalized deviance” by those delivering care 11:30 The importance of reframing the health system to eliminate the exploitation of patients for profit 12:15 “Our healthcare system is allows for the exploitation of sickness for profit.” 13:00 Marshall discusses the lack of an ethical position to exploit consumers for non-discretionary choices 13:20 The escalating price of insulin as an example of how inelastic demand is exploited for profit 15:00 Marshall explains how employers and patients can demand better value by no longer tolerating profit maximization 16:30 Referencing the recent JAMA Study on Medical Debt showing that 1 in 5 Americans have medical debt in collections 17:00 Using Marshall’s new book as a step-by-step, tactical guerilla guide for patient and employer empowerment 19:30 The approval of non-effective drugs and pricing scams conducted by Big Pharma (e.g. the recent approval of Aduhelm) 20:20 Marshall explains how the specialty drug, Vimovo, is an egregious example of a Big Pharma profiteering scheme combining two common drugs with no additional therapeutic benefit (Marshall’s article on Vimovo) 24:00 Motivated to write book to help patients facing financial ruination by healthcare 25:00 185 million Americans in the employer-sponsored insurance market as an opportunity for grassroots reform 25:30 Marshall’s explains his family’s personal experience of financial exploitation by the healthcare system (the Introduction to his book) 28:30 The need for patients to gather evidence when disputing medical billing errors and upcoding 31:30 The effectiveness of small claims courts in empowering patients who are being financially exploited 34:00 Marshall provides guidance on how patients can avoid unnecessary care 37:00 Comparing the financial incentives between capitated models vs. fee-for-service 38:00 Always ask for the cash price as a patient!

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