Contrasting Viewpoints with Mark Hurley and Ray Sclafani
Mark Hurley and Ray Sclafani provide different viewpoints and insights on what is really going on in the wealth management industry as well as take an in-depth look at the immense opportunity ahead over the next ten to fifteen years and what firms will need to do to capitalize on it.
Recent Episodes
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Oct. 23, 2026
Why AI Makes Human Advisors More Valuable, Not Less featuring Bryan Hyman (Ep. 30)
Ray Sclafani and Mark Hurley discuss how ownership disputes can derail a wealth management deal, why advisors should understand their agreements before signing, and how AI is changing the way prospective clients discover and evaluate firms. They also examine the risks of relying on AI for advice, emphasizing that fiduciary responsibility remains with the advisor and that AI-generated information must be verified. In the “You’ve Got to Be Kidding Me” segment, Ray and Mark consider the controversy
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Sept. 11, 2026
If Advisors Don't Offer Estate Planning, Clients Will Leave (Ep. 29)
Most American families procrastinate on estate planning—over 50% have no plan at all. But Cody Barbo, founder and CEO of TrustAndWill (the nation's leading digital estate planning platform), reveals why this isn't a knowledge problem. It's an anxiety problem. In this episode of Contrasting Viewpoints, Ray Sclafani and Mark Hurley explore the real opportunity ahead for financial advisors who make estate planning a core service. Cody shares why his startup has helped 1.3 million families—and how
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Aug. 3, 2026
Your CRM Shouldn't Be AI's Training Ground feat. Matt Halloran (Ep. 28)
AI is no longer a future consideration for advisory firms. It's an operating decision advisors are making right now, and this episode digs into what that decision actually involves. Ray Sclafani and Mark Hurley open with their usual contrasting lenses (Mark on custodial economics and market structure, Ray on talent and culture) before turning to Matt Halloran, Chief Evangelist at Zocks, for a candid look at how AI assistants are reshaping day-to-day practice management. Matt unpacks why pluggin
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July 20, 2026
Why Bigger Deals Actually Get Worse featuring David Grau Jr. (Ep. 27)
If you're considering a merger, acquisition, or sale in the next five to ten years, this episode will challenge everything you think you know about valuations and deal structures in wealth management. David Grau Jr., founder and CEO of Succession Resource Group debates a critical question: Does bigger always mean better in M&A? Ray Sclafani and Mark Hurley explore the hard data behind deal multiples, the real economics of private equity partnerships, and why advisors are increasingly pursuing st
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July 16, 2026
Why Team Liftouts Have Never Been More Desirable with Allan Starkie (Ep. 26)
The talent war in wealth management is intensifying. Massive consolidation has eliminated C-suite roles while creating explosive demand for advisors and teams that bring clients. Team liftouts have become more desirable than ever, but the economics, legal complexity, and retention challenges are reshaping how firms recruit, retain, and compensate talent. In this episode of Contrasting Viewpoints, Ray Sclafani and Mark Hurley are joined by Allan Starkie of Knightsbridge Advisors to discuss what'
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June 5, 2026
Before You Chase the Multiple feat. Wayne Hewett (Ep. 25)
Valuations are high. Private equity capital continues to flood the market. Advisory firm owners are hearing about eye-popping multiples and wondering if now is the time to sell, acquire, or bring on a partner. In this episode of ContrastingViewpoints, Ray Sclafani and Mark Hurley are joined by Wayne Hewett of Live Oak Bank to discuss what advisors should consider before chasing a headline valuation. The conversation explores the role of debt versus equity, internal succession planning, next-gen