Episodes
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July 22, 2026
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 30 – COL Kyle Marcrum and Sheena Chestnut Greitens – China’s Community of Common Destiny and the Global Initiatives
Dr. Sheena Chestnut Greitens, visiting faculty at the China Landpower Studies Center at the US Army War College and an associate professor at the University of Texas—Austin, joins the CLSC Dialogues to discuss the People’s Republic of China’s four Global Initiatives and her recent publication on China’s mobilizational initiatives. Keywords: China, Global Initiatives, Community of Common Destiny COL Kyle Marcrum Welcome to the CLSC Dialogues, a production of the China Landpower Studies Center ...
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May 22, 2026
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 29 – Tom Spahr and General Xavier Brunson – “An Enviable Position in the Pacific”: An interview with General Xavier Brunson
Guest host Tom Spahr and General Xavier Brunson, commander of United Nations Command, ROK-US Combined Forces Command, and United States Forces Korea (UNC/CFC/USFK), discuss Korea, the Indo-Pacific, and mission command. Keywords: Korea, China, mission command Dr. Tom Spahr (Host) Welcome to CLSC Dialogues, a production of the China Landpower Studies at the US Army War College. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the guests and are not necessarily those of the Departme...
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May 14, 2026
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 28 – COL Kyle Marcrum and Dr. Jessica Liao – Taiwan’s Special Defense Budget and KMT Trip to Beijing, Part 2
In part two of this two-part episode, COL Kyle Marcrum and Dr. Jessica Liao discuss Taiwan President Lai’s special defense budget and the Kuomingdang Chair, Cheng Li-wun, visit to Beijing. Keywords: Taiwan, defense, budget COL Kyle Marcrum Welcome back to the CLSC Dialogues, a production of the China Landpower Studies Center at the United States Army War College. The opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers, and not necessarily those of the Department of the Army, United S...
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May 13, 2026
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 27 – COL Kyle Marcrum and Dr. Jessica Liao – Taiwan’s Special Defense Budget and KMT Trip to Beijing, Part 1
In part one of this two-part episode, COL Kyle Marcrum and Dr. Jessica Liao discuss Taiwan President Lai’s special defense budget and why it is stalled in Taiwan’s Legislative Yuan. Keywords: Taiwan, defense, budget COL Kyle B. Marcrum Welcome to the CLSC Dialogues, a production of the China Landpower Studies Center at the US Army War College. The opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the Department of the Army, US Army War College, or the U...
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April 28, 2026
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 26 – COL Mike Long and LTG Joel B. Vowell – On the Pacific, USARPAC, and China
In this episode, COL Mike Long and LTG Joel B. Vowell discuss the US Army Pacific and the role of USARPAC. COL Mike Long Welcome to CLSC Dialogues, a production of the China Landpower Studies Center at the Army War College. The opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the speakers and not necessarily those of the Department of the Army, US Army War College, or the US government. I'm Colonel Mike Long from the Strategic Studies Institute, and today I'm lucky enough to be joined by the US...
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Jan. 27, 2026
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 25 – Rick Gunnell and COL Michael Long – Discussion on the New National Security Strategy and its Relevance to the Pacific
Rick Gunnell and Colonel Michael Long discuss the latest National Security Strategy and its implications for the US posture toward the Indo-Pacific. Mr. Rick Gunnell Welcome to CLSC Dialogues. Production of the China Landpower Studies Center at the Army War College. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the guests and not necessarily those of the Department of Army, US Army War College, or the US government. I'm Rick Gunnell, research professor of China military studies...
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Nov. 24, 2025
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 24 – MAJ Brennan Deveraux and COL Michael Long – Meet the New CLSC Director: A Conversation on Korea
In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, Major Brennan Deveraux welcomes Colonel Michael Long, the new Director of the China Landpower Studies Center. After discussing COL Long’s thoughts on the new assignment, the conversation shifts to his recent experiences in Korea, offering listeners unique insights from the former Eighth Army G-5 Assistant Chief of Staff for Policy, Planning, and Strategy. Brennan Deveraux Hello. You’re listening to CLSC Dialogues, a China Landpower Studies Center (CLSC) produ...
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Sept. 3, 2025
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 23 – Joshua Arostegui, Brennan Deveraux, and Rick Gunnell – More Than a Numbers Game: Comparing US and Chinese Landpower in the Pacific Requires Context
[Rick Gunnell] You're listening to CLSC Dialogues, landpower in the Indo-Pacific, a China Landpower Studies Center production. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the guests and are not necessarily those of the Department of Army, US Army, War College, or any other agency of the US government. I'm Rick Gunnel, research professor of China military studies and today we're talking with Josh Arostegui, chair of the China Landpower Studies Center, and Brennan Devereaux, nati...
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April 14, 2025
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 22 – LTG McFarlane – Commanding General of America's First Corps
[Colonel Rich Butler] You're listening to CLSC dialogues, Landpower in the Indo-Pacific. A China Land Power Study Center production. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the guests, and are not necessarily those of the Department of the Army, the US Army War College, or any other agency of the US government. I am Colonel Rich Butler, the Director of CLSC. Today we are talking with Lieutenant General Matthew McFarlane, the commanding general of America's I Corps, headqua...
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April 11, 2025
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 21 – Dan Rice – How Chinese Leaders Conceptualize Protracted War
You're listening to CLSC Dialogues, a China Landpower Studies Center production. The views and opinions expressed in this podcast are those of the guests and are not necessarily those of the Department of the Army, the U.S. Army War College, or any other agency of the U.S. government. I’m Jake Rinaldi, a defense analyst at the China Landpower Studies Center. Jake Rinaldi: In this episode, we’ll be discussing how Chinese leaders conceptualize protracted war. Joining us is Dan Rice, the China p...
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Jan. 6, 2025
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 20 – Brian Carlson and David Stone – “Potential Forms of Russian Support for China in a Protracted War”
In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, Brian Carlson interviews David Stone, a Russia expert from the U.S. Naval War College, about potential forms of support that Russia might or might not provide to China in the event of a protracted war in the Indo-Pacific. They discuss the likelihood of direct Russian military intervention in support of China, possible ways that Russia might create distractions for the United States and its allies and partners, and Russia’s ability to support China by providing ...
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Nov. 7, 2024
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 19 – R. Evan Ellis – “China, the Illiberal Counter-Order, and the Role of Values in the Strategic Response”
In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, COL Rich Butler interviews Dr. R. Evan Ellis on his recent article written for the Journal of Indo-Pacific Affairs titled, “China, the Illiberal Counter-Order, and the Role of Values in the Strategic Response.” This illuminating discussion covers what China is doing differently than the Soviets during the Cold War, and how new technology is playing a role in enabling Chinese Communist Party (CCP) objectives. The conversation then turns to the importance of thes...
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Sept. 24, 2024
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 18 – Josh Arostegui and Dennis Blasko – “A Baseline Assessment of the PLA Army's Border Reinforcement Operations in the Aksai Chin”
In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, Josh Arostegui interviews prominent China expert Dennis Blasko on his analysis of PLA Army and Boader Defense Unit activity along the Line of Actual Control between China and India. He describes the development of infrastructure that allows the PLA to maintain a more robust forward presence. He further describes headquarters, troop presence and rotations, and other activity that increases the preparedness of the PLA to seize and defend key and decisive terrain ...
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Aug. 26, 2024
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 17 – COL Rich Butler and Markus Garlauskas – Protracted War Series: A Discussion with Markus Garlauskas
In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, Markus Garlauskas discusses why we should think about the potential for a protracted war in the Indo-Pacific and what lessons we should be learning from analyzing the topic. He talks about why we should think about the likelihood of a potential protracted war should peace break in a place like Taiwan and why preparedness matters. He then discusses potential escalation dynamics associated with a protracted and how that changes the deterrence calculus. The conver...
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Aug. 20, 2024
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 16 – COL Rich Butler and COL Marco Lyons – Protracted War Series: A Discussion with COL Marco Lyons
In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, COL Marco Lyons discusses how the Pacific Army sees, understands, and utilizes landpower in the region from peacetime to a potential protracted war. He further articulates how the U.S. Army, Pacific conducts campaigning, prepares for crisis, deters conflict – and prevails in a protracted war, if necessary, in this unique region. Marco discusses the impact of Army modernization, new concepts and capabilities, and working with allies and key security partners in ...
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Aug. 8, 2024
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 15 – COL Rich Butler and Dr. Sheena Chestnut Greitens – Protracted War Series: A discussion with Dr. Sheena Greitens
In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, Dr. Sheena Greitens looks at the potential for a protracted war between the US and China by exploring how a conflict could start and variables the CCP leadership may be watching. She then addresses public perceptions, economic dimensions, and how much planning Beijing may have done in preparation for a protracted war. Keywords: China, CCP, Xi Jinping, PLA, decision making, landpower, protracted war, economic warfare, coalitions, DPRK, Russia
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July 18, 2024
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 14 – Josh Arostegui – Protracted War Series: A Discussion with Josh Arostegui
In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, Josh Arostegui discusses some of the more salient points regarding how prepared the PRC is for a protracted war. He describes how the PLA remains designed to execute large-scale combat operations through the existence of unique PLA reserve, militia-centric organizations, and deep military integration within the country’s civilian infrastructure. Keywords: China, PLA, civilian-military fusion, landpower, protracted war, PLA reserve, PLA military militia
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July 15, 2024
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 13 – Josh Arostegui and Rick Gunnell – An Interview with Dennis Blasko
In this episode of CLSC Dialogues, Josh Arostegui, and Rick Gunnell interview renowned China expert Dennis Blasko. They discuss the origins of Blasko's interest in China and the PLA, then delve into his research and writing on Chinese landpower. Blasko provides wisdom and insight China watchers as they continue the tradition of researching, analyzing, and educating. mentoring, career, China, PLA, Landpower, open source analysis
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July 2, 2024
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 12 – COL Rich Butler and COL Marco J. Lyons – On "War with China: A View from Early 2024"
In 2012, the late diplomat and RAND Corporation Senior Fellow James Dobbins wrote an article titled “War with China,” which was published in the journal Survival. The article asserted that there were several potential cases for conflict with China, including North Korea’s collapse and an unrestrained Sino-Indian border war. But, Dobbins claimed, as long as America could deter certain Chinese behaviors, these cases were unlikely to come to fruition. Colonel Marco J. Lyons and Colonel Rich Butler ...
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June 26, 2024
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 11 – COL Rich Butler and COL Brandon Teague – On the 5th Security Force
In this episode, Colonel Rich Butler and Colonel Brandon Teague discuss the 5th Security Force Assistance Brigade and its contributions to the US Indo-Pacific and how persistent presence and advisory roles contribute to the concept of integrated deterrence. Teague also shares some recent operations activities his team has participated in and their key accomplishments. Keywords: 5th Security Force Assistance Brigade, Indo-Pacific, Joint Pacific Multinational Readiness Center, Operation Pathways,...
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June 18, 2024
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 10 – MAJ Brennan Deveraux and Josh Arostegui – "Arming Allies and Partners: How Foreign Military Sales Can Change the China Problem"
In this episode, MAJ Brennan Deveraux, national security researcher in the Strategic Studies Institute, and Josh Arostegui, research director and chair of the China Landpower Studies Center, discuss Deveraux's recent article, "Arming Allies and Partners: How Foreign Military Sales Can Change the China Problem," in which he proposes that regional partners will support the US military differently in a potential conflict. Consequently, Deveraux provides a unique framework for understanding the regi...
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June 11, 2024
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 9 – Dr. Sheena Chestnut Greitens – Politics of the North Korean Diaspora
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 9 – Dr. Sheena Chestnut Greitens – Politics of the North Korean Diaspora Keywords: North Korea
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June 5, 2024
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 8 – COL Rich Butler and Dr. John Deni – On "Coalition of the unWilling and unAble: European Realignment and the Future of American Geopolitics"
COL Rich Butler and Dr. John Deni discuss Deni's book Coalition of the unWilling and unAble: European Realignment and the Future of American Geopolitics. The conversation addresses Europe's relationship with China and what it means for America and the rest of the world. Keywords: China, Europe, America, EU, geopolitics
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May 30, 2024
CLSC Dialogues – Ep 7 – Christopher Sharman and Dr. Andrew S. Erickson – China Center Director Series – China Maritime Studies Institute
Join Christopher Sharman and Dr. Andrew S. Erickson as they discuss the China Maritime Studies Institute at the Naval War College. Sharman serves as the director of the China Maritime Studies Institute and Erickson—who helped stand up the organization in 2006—is professor of strategy in the China Maritime Studies Institute. Keywords: China Maritime Studies Institute, China, global order, strategy, education, Naval War College