The Inner Circle

Some things are guaranteed to change you. Most of us just never make the time for them. In this episode of The Inner Circle, Mike and Kevin talk about stepping away on purpose. Kevin is heading to the remote Khumbu region of Nepal to trek, disconnect and think about the next season of life as a new empty nester. Mike is heading to his second 8-day silent meditation retreat, right after approving the final proof of his book. They talk about staying open to change, why achievers end up running at

Things tend to work out. Usually better than you imagined. In this episode of The Inner Circle, Mike and Kevin unpack a line from climbing legend Lynn Hill at Kevin's Boulder event: "I've managed to live my whole life without having a regular job, and things tend to work out." Mike shares how losing $1.6 million on a distressed e-commerce company became one of the greatest gifts of his life, and they dig into why fear makes us overestimate risk, underestimate the cost of staying put, and why the

Love something absurd or obscure way too much.In this episode of The Inner Circle, Mike and Kevin start with a post Mike put up on X: a cheat code for being happier is loving something uncool, like his outsized love for The Cranberries. Kevin explains why he asks every job candidate what they do outside of work, and why a weird, passionate answer tells him more than a résumé. They talk about why personal stories and odd interests matter more as AI makes everything sound the same, and then answer

???? Inner Circle ⭕️ is back! Kevin and I took a little break. When we started this podcast with a single rule: This stays fun. The minute it feels like work, we are missing the mark. So when I was heads down launching the book, the pod dropped out. The other promise was that this show would be the conversations Kevin and I have anyway. This episode is us legitimately catching up - and we have some big life updates. Thanks to everyone who messaged to say you missed the show. We did too!

The closer you get to your potential, the further it moves. In this episode of The Inner Circle, Mike and Kevin take apart one of the most well-meaning ideas we inherit: that you owe it to yourself to live up to your potential. Kevin admits he has spent years haunted by the feeling that his was massive and unspent. Mike makes the case that the measure was rigged from the start, and that the goalposts were never going to hold still. They discuss: - Why potential is an unwinnable game by definitio

Some money is better than none. But why do people keep chasing long after they have enough? In this episode of The Inner Circle, Mike calls in from day seven of a ten-day writing retreat in Winter Park, and Kevin shares a number he did not plan to share. The conversation finds its way to the question underneath both: at what point does another dollar cost more than it is worth, and how do you actually know when you have crossed that line? They discuss: - Why financial independence has nothing to