Older & Wilder
Funny, honest, easy to listen to - we are often described as, "like listening to your best friends have a conversation at dinner."
This is Joy and Claire is an evolution of the weekly podcast Girls Gone WOD, which we created back in June 2013. Since then we have released over 400 weekly episodes a...
Recent Episodes
Oct. 21, 2026
Portugal Adventures
A Whirlwind Portugal Work Trip, Jet Lag Adventures, and Life Updates from Moab Joy and Claire catch up on recent life events. Joy shares a whirlwind work trip to Porto, Portugal and intense jet lag despite trying the Time Shifter app. She recounts sightseeing, great Portuguese food (including egg custard pastries), a port tasting, and a late-night misadventure walking three miles back to the hotel. Claire updates on family visits in Moab, Utah travel tips about weak mixed drinks, Miles turning
Oct. 14, 2026
Beyond Diet Trends: Practical Eating with EC Synkowski
Opting Out of Nutrition Insanity with EC Synkowski https://optimizemenutrition.com/podcast/agoodnutritionbook/ Joy and Claire welcome back nutrition coach EC Synkowski (Optimize Me Nutrition), creator of the 800 Gram Challenge and author of A Good Nutrition Book, to discuss escaping fear-based, overly optimized diet culture shaped by CrossFit, paleo, and macro tracking. EC shares her past disordered eating and argues most people—“the worried well”—need fewer rules and less obsession, focusing
Oct. 7, 2026
Lindsay Lohan's Comeback and High School Reunions
Lindsay Lohan’s Comeback, Florida Pool Days, and Pop Culture Rabbit Holes Joy and Claire chat about October 3rd pop-culture nods and Lindsay Lohan’s comeback. They discuss Ted Lasso’s new storyline, unseasonably warm fall weather, and work updates. Claire recaps a Florida trip to Bradenton/Anna Maria Island with lots of kid pool time, a touristy date-night dinner, an aquarium visit with manatees, and seafood. They also cover running gear and headphones, Act+Acre hair products, early Botox trend
Sept. 30, 2026
Letting Go of F*cks as We Age
Aging Out of Fucks: Midlife Brain Shifts Joy and Claire discuss upcoming travel and Claire shares enjoying runs guided by a British-accented DJ coach, switching her weightlifting to evenings for convenience, and the great on-ear headphones review. They talk about Joy's Santa Fe anniversary trip and a Big Thief concert with incredible people-watching and praise for lead singer Adrianne Lenker’s musicianship. They then unpack Ellen Schur’s “Aging Out of Fucks,” linking midlife hormonal/neurologic
Sept. 23, 2026
Estate Planning Part 2: Wills, Trusts, and Picking the Right Attorney
Estate Planning Part 2: Wills, Trusts, LGBTQ Families, and Picking the Right Attorney (with Zach Anderson) Joy and Claire welcome back Zach Anderson for a Part 2 focused on listener questions. He explains how to “fire” an attorney, how attorneys may withdraw from clients, and what to look for in a divorce lawyer—especially communication, proactivity, and balancing negotiation with litigation costs. The conversation covers confirmatory/stepparent adoptions in reciprocal IVF situations, legal bar
Sept. 16, 2026
Running, Product Recs, & Home Improvement
Joy and Claire catch up after Joy’s birthday weekend, which included friends, cupcakes and IKEA closets. They discuss decluttering excess clothes and shoes and Scott’s “optimization” impulse leading him to gift Claire Shokz open-ear running headphones. Updates include a permitted Arches hike, an upcoming Santa Fe anniversary trip to see Big Thief, quick-fire Q&A on small purchases, fitness and running, Bake Off podcast plans, recharging tips, brow products for thinning brows, and excitement for