Leaders in Living Rooms

If you think multisite is only for megachurches, or that the best campus pastor is the one who stays forever, Dr. Warren Bird has some data that might surprise you. After a year-long research project with more than 1,000 church leaders, Warren joins Sean Morgan to unpack what’s actually happening in the multisite church today. They cover the number of multisite churches in the U.S., why one in three new campuses now comes through a merger, and why hiring a campus pastor from outside your church

Most pastors know exactly what they want their church culture to feel like. The trouble is that almost nobody has put enough words around it to teach it. In this conversation, Sean Morgan sits down with Jenni Catron, culture strategist and longtime ministry executive, to talk about what happens when a church grows beyond the people who “just get it.” Jenni explains why culture can’t stay “caught” once you have multiple departments, campuses, and remote team members. She also shares the onboardin

Filipe Santos, lead pastor of Echo Church in Silicon Valley, returns to Leaders in Living Rooms four years into his succession, and he's refreshingly honest about what he's learned. After more than a decade as executive pastor, Filipe unpacks how he learned to lead as himself instead of wearing someone else's armor, why the applause that comes with a new title is more dangerous than most of us admit, and the unexpected rhythms (like ditching the green room) that keep his heart in check. Then he

Most pastors treat a sabbatical like a finish line: hold on until it arrives, then collapse into it. But what if there is a better way? In this solo episode of Leaders in Living Rooms, Sean shares what he learned from his own sabbatical, including what he'd do again and the one thing he'd change. He talks about why you can't flip a switch on the way out or the way back in, and why he redirected his inbox to a folder he never plans to open. He also explains what it looked like to step away from t

Do you actually have power, and what are you supposed to do with it? On this episode of Leaders in Living Rooms, Sean Morgan sits down with author Andy Crouch, whose landmark book Playing God reframed how a generation of Christian leaders think about power, for a conversation most leadership podcasts won't touch. Andy makes the case that power isn't a necessary evil to be minimized or hidden behind a flat org chart; it's a gift, and the only thing that keeps it from corrupting is sacrificial lov

In this episode of Leaders in Living Rooms, host Sean Morgan sits down with Matt Brown, pastor of Sandals Church, to unpack the tension pastoral leaders feel when the roles of friend, pastor, and boss collide in the same relationship. Matt challenges the instinct to soften hard conversations for the sake of the relationship, showing instead that clarity delivered with genuine care is what actually protects trust and long-term health on a team. Together, they explore how effective leaders learn t