Episodes

Season 4, Episode 9 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, hosted by Sister Julia Walsh. "I go, and I think I'm bringing Church to them; Church is already there." - Deacon Pablo Perez LISTEN HERE: IN THIS EPISODE: Sister Julia Walsh talks with Deacon Pablo Perez about how he became a deacon and chaplain at Chicago's Cook and Lake County Jails, after being a gang member himself. "I was just as reckless as they were. I was just as broken as they were," Pablo Perez explains. "That's why I know that inves...

In this episode of Messy Jesus Business podcast, Sister Julia Walsh talks with Paul Engler, author, activist and community organizer. They explore the integration of spiritual life and social justice work, and--in spite of the dominant culture's focus on individualism--how community is necessary to bring about social change.

Sister Julia Walsh talks with Ellen Salmi van Cleef and Joshua van Cleef about how they became missionaries serving in Eastern Kentucky, and how being a missionary today is about presence.

In this episode of Messy Jesus Business, Sister Julia Walsh talks with Sister Nicole Trahan about inclusivity and equity in the Church, privilege and the importance of imagining new ways to share power.

"There's nothing that I wouldn't give to just tear that wall down."- Sister Tracey Horan Season 4, Episode 3 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, hosted by Sister Julia Walsh. LISTEN HERE: IN THIS EPISODE: In this episode of Messy Jesus Business, Sister Julia Walsh talks with Sister Tracey Horan about her journey from being a teenager arguing in favor of a border wall, to an educator and minister working on the border who wants the wall torn down. They discuss the problems with Title 42 and the impo...

"This idea of finding grace within the mess, I think that is the call of the Christian life."-Laura Kelly Fanucci Season 4, Episode 2 of Messy Jesus Business podcast, hosted by Sister Julia Walsh. LISTEN HERE: IN THIS EPISODE: In this episode of Messy Jesus Business, Sister Julia Walsh talks with author and speaker Laura Kelly Fanucci about how she discovered her vocation to write about the intersection of parenting and faith, as a new mother. "It became a spiritual practice for me in those new ...

"I think what I've learned is there's great fruitfulness in messiness...you need dirt to grow things."- Heidi Haverkamp Season 4, Episode 1 of Messy Jesus Business, hosted by Sister Julia Walsh. IN THIS EPISODE: In this episode of Messy Jesus Business, Sister Julia Walsh talks with writer and Episcopal priest Heidi Haverkamp about why being a part-time hermit is essential to her, and how it serves her in her work. "Part of a healthy solitude is that you're growing in love for other people," she ...