Episodes

Oct. 20, 2026

Called to serve: Tech, research, and positive impact with Chris White

Lab Director Chris White has worked on research challenges with real-world implications—from new approaches to wartime data analysis to tools for combating human trafficking. He talks to program manager Weishung Liu about the influences that led to the work and more. Show notes
Oct. 6, 2026

What AI gets wrong and what failure teaches us

Jennifer Neville did not want to go into computer science—but that’s exactly where she landed. Neville discusses the starts and stops that led to her professional sweet spot and her work identifying “surprising failures” making it hard for AI to handle complexity. Show notes
April 20, 2026

Can we AI our way to a more sustainable world?

Doug Burger, sustainability expert Amy Luers, and optimization researcher Ishai Menache examine the global emissions implications of datacenter operations, efficiency gains, and AI's potential across electrification, materials, and food systems. Show notes
April 9, 2026

Ideas: Steering AI toward the work future we want

Microsoft Chief Scientist Jaime Teevan and researchers Jenna Butler, Jake Hofman, and Rebecca Janssen unpack the New Future of Work Report 2025 and explore the ideal AI-driven working world. Plus, is AI a tool or a collaborator? And why the answer matters. Show notes
March 23, 2026

Will machines ever be intelligent?

Are machines truly intelligent? AI researchers Subutai Ahmad and Nicolò Fusi join Doug Burger to compare transformer-based AI with the human brain, exploring continual learning, efficiency, and whether today’s models are on a path toward human intelligence. The Shape of Things to Come podcast series
March 3, 2026

Trailer: The Shape of Things to Come

Microsoft research lead Doug Burger introduces his new podcast series, The Shape of Things to Come, an exploration into the fundamental truths about AI and how the technology will reshape the future. The Shape of Things to Come podcast series
Dec. 1, 2025

Ideas: Community building, machine learning, and the future of AI

As the Women in Machine Learning Workshop (WiML) marks its 20th annual gathering, cofounders, friends, and collaborators Jenn Wortman Vaughan and Hanna Wallach reflect on WiML’s evolution, navigating the field of ML, and their work in responsible AI. Show notes
Oct. 6, 2025

Ideas: More AI-resilient biosecurity with the Paraphrase Project

Microsoft’s Eric Horvitz and guests Bruce Wittmann, Tessa Alexanian, and James Diggans discuss the Paraphrase Project—a red-teaming effort that exposed and secured a biosecurity vulnerability in AI-driven protein design. The work offers a model for addressing AI’s dual-use risks. Show notes
Aug. 21, 2025

Coauthor roundtable: Reflecting on healthcare economics, biomedical research, and medical education

For the series finale, Peter Lee, Carey Goldberg, and Dr. Zak Kohane compare their predictions to insights from the series’ most recent guests, including experts on AI’s economic and societal impact, leaders in AI-driven medicine, and doctors in training. Show notes
Aug. 7, 2025

Reimagining healthcare delivery and public health with AI

Former Washington State Secretary of Health Dr. Umair Shah and Mayo Clinic CEO Dr. Gianrico Farrugia explore how healthcare leaders are approaching AI when it comes to public health, care delivery, the healthcare-research connection, and the patient experience. Show notes
July 24, 2025

Navigating medical education in the era of generative AI

Next-generation physicians Morgan Cheatham and Daniel Chen discuss how generative AI is transforming medical education, exploring how students and attending physicians integrate new tools while navigating questions on trust, training, and responsibility. Show notes
July 21, 2025

AI Testing and Evaluation: Reflections

In the series finale, Amanda Craig Deckard returns to examine what Microsoft has learned about testing as a governance tool. She also explores the roles of rigor, standardization, and interpretability in testing and what’s next for Microsoft’s AI governance work. Show notes: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/research/podcast/ai-testing-and-evaluation-reflections/
July 14, 2025

AI Testing and Evaluation: Learnings from cybersecurity

Drawing on his previous work as the UK’s cybersecurity chief, Professor Ciaran Martin explores differentiated standards and public-private partnerships in cybersecurity, and Microsoft’s Tori Westerhoff examines the insights through an AI red-teaming lens. Show notes
July 10, 2025

How AI will accelerate biomedical research and discovery

Daphne Koller, Noubar Afeyan, and Dr. Eric Topol, leaders in AI-driven medicine, discuss how AI is changing biomedical research and discovery, from accelerating drug target identification and biotech R&D to helping pursue the “holy grail” of a virtual cell. Show notes
July 7, 2025

AI Testing and Evaluation: Learnings from pharmaceuticals and medical devices

Professors Daniel Carpenter and Timo Minssen explore evolving pharma and medical device regulation, including the role of clinical trials, while Microsoft applied scientist Chad Atalla shares where AI governance stakeholders might find inspiration in the fields. Show notes
June 30, 2025

AI Testing and Evaluation: Learnings from genome editing

In this episode, Alta Charo, emerita professor of law and bioethics at the University of Wisconsin–Madison, joins Sullivan for a conversation on the evolving landscape of genome editing and its regulatory implications. Drawing on decades of experience in biotechnology policy, Charo emphasizes the importance of distinguishing between hazards and risks and describes the field's approach to regulating applications of technology rather than the technology itself. The discussion also explores opportu...
June 23, 2025

AI Testing and Evaluation: Learnings from Science and Industry

In the introductory episode of this new series, host Kathleen Sullivan and Senior Director Amanda Craig Deckard explore Microsoft’s efforts to draw on the experience of other domains to help advance the role of AI testing and evaluation as a governance tool.
June 12, 2025

The AI Revolution in Medicine, Revisited: How AI is reshaping the future of healthcare and medical research

Technologists Bill Gates and Sébastien Bubeck discuss the state of generative AI in medicine, how access to “medical intelligence” might help empower people across healthcare, and how AI’s accelerating improvements are likely to affect both delivery and discovery.
May 29, 2025

What AI's impact on individuals means for the health workforce and industry

Ethan Mollick and Azeem Azhar, thought leaders at the forefront of AI’s influence on work, education, and society, discuss the impact of AI at the individual level and what that means for the healthcare workforce and the organizations and systems in medicine.
May 22, 2025

Abstracts: Zero-shot models in single-cell biology with Alex Lu

The emergence of foundation models has sparked interest in applications to single-cell biology, but when tested in zero-shot settings, they underperform compared to simpler methods. Alex Lu shares insights on why more research on AI models is needed in biological applications. Show notes
May 21, 2025

Abstracts: Aurora with Megan Stanley and Wessel Bruinsma

A new Nature paper explores Aurora, an AI model that redefines weather prediction with application to other environmental domains such as tropical cyclones. Hear from senior researchers Megan Stanley and Wessel Bruinsma as they share their groundbreaking work. Read the paper
May 20, 2025

Collaborators: Healthcare Innovation to Impact

In this discussion, Matthew Lungren, Jonathan Carlson, Smitha Saligrama, Will Guyman, and Cameron Runde explore how teams across Microsoft are working together to generate advanced AI capabilities and solutions for developers and clinicians around the globe. Get started with Azure AI Foundry Labs
May 15, 2025

Coauthor roundtable: Reflecting on real world of doctors, developers, patients, and policymakers

Peter Lee and his coauthors, Carey Goldberg and Dr. Zak Kohane, reflect on how generative AI is unfolding in real-world healthcare, drawing on earlier guest conversations to examine what’s working, what’s not, and what questions still remain.
May 8, 2025

Abstracts: Heat Transfer and Deep Learning with Hongxia Hao and Bing Lv

Silicon has long borne the burden of heat transfer in electronics, but in a post-Moore’s Law world, researchers like Hongxia Hao and Bing Lv are using AI to discover and design next-generation materials that exceed the limits of silicon’s thermal conductivity. Read the paper