The RunOut Podcast

Chris Kalous (The Enormocast) and Andrew Bisharat (Evening Sends) bring decades of climbing experience to the mic, talking with the most interesting voices in the sport. From bouldering to big walls, comps to alpinism—no discipline is off-limits and no do

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RunOut #145: Here Come the Management Plans 

Posted April 3, 202501:12:05

Earlier this year, the Bears Ears Resource Management Plan dropped, outlining rules regarding camping, waste management, dogs, and, perhaps most controversially,...

RunOut #144: Life After Competition: Hannah Schubert and Eating Disorders in Climbing

Posted March 19, 202501:28:09

Hannah Schubert is an Austrian climber who has podiumed at the World Cup and the World Championships. Now retired from professional competition, Hannah...

RunOut #143: PARC Act Passes, so What’s Next For Climbing in America?

Posted February 28, 202501:17:09

The Protect America's Rock Climbing Act was signed into law at the end of President Biden's term. The PARC Act mandates that various government departments...

RunOut #142: Jason Kehl and the Evolution of Bouldering

Posted February 19, 202501:16:51

Jason Kehl is a hold shaper, iconclast, and highball bouldering legend, perhaps best known for his first ascent of Evilution in the Buttermilks. Today,...

RunOut #141: The Joy of Struggle, According to Ryan Devlin

Posted January 29, 202501:23:57

Ryan Devlin is an actor who has appeared in such shows as Brothers and Sisters, Cougar Town, and Grey's Anatomy. Climbers, however, will know him as...