The RunOut Podcast

Chris Kalous (The Enormocast) and Andrew Bisharat (Evening Sends) bring decades of climbing experience to the mic, talking with the most interesting voices in the sport. From bouldering to big walls, comps to alpinism—no discipline is off-limits and no do

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RunOut #125: Michael Levy Brings Back Summit Journal; Plus, the Definitive Gumby Episode

Posted May 17, 202401:09:00

After Rock and Ice and Climbing magazines stopped printing issues, a hole was left in the climbing media landscape. Enter Michael Levy, a writer based...

RunOut 124: How Jesse Grupper is getting Psyched and Ready for the next Olympics

Posted April 30, 202400:54:46

Last fall, Jesse Grupper took home the gold medal at the Pan Am games, securing his spot on Team USA for the Paris Olympics in 2024. Now just a few...

RunOut 123: How NFL Lineman Wes Schweitzer Uses Rock Climbing to Move Better and Get Stronger

Posted April 16, 202401:06:45

Our guest today is #71 for the New York Jets: Wes Schweitzer, an offensive guard whose injuries sent him down a curious path of recovery: rock climbing....

RunOut 122: Will Moss Leaves No Stone Unclimbed

Posted March 26, 202401:31:03

Will Moss is a comp climber turned traddie from New York City, who has been quietly ticking some of the hardest gear-protected routes in the country...

RunOut #121: Beth Rodden Reveals A Light Through the Cracks

Posted March 8, 2024

Today’s guest is a climbing icon and legend: the great Beth Rodden. Beth was a youth national comp champ who went on to become one of the greatest...