Episodes
Oct. 23, 2026
Take 2 Podcast: Data Center Battles, Election Security, Fight for for Control of Congress
Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello and Utah House Speaker Mike Schultz What you'll hear this week: Utah congressional debates: What issues will drive voters to the polls? Data center protests, arrests and potential legislation in 2027. Could data centers become a national election issue? Constitutional Amendments A & B: What's at stake? DOJ election monitors coming to Utah. Lt. Gov. Deidre Henderson's 60 Minutes interview and threats against election officials. Federal judge stal...
Oct. 5, 2026
Take 2 Podcast: Utah’s Election sprint, ballot amendments, death penalty debate
This week on Take 2 Podcast: Heidi Hatch is joined by Maura Carabello of the Exoro Group and Utah GOP Chair Rob Axson. The 2026 election sprint: Mail ballots go out Oct. 13 ahead of Utah’s Nov. 3 general election. The new Salt Lake-centered 1st Congressional District and whether it could help determine the balance of power in Washington. Breaking down the CD1 debate between Democrat Ben McAdams and Republican Riley Owen: Did either candidate move undecided voters? What to watch for in the CD...
Sept. 25, 2026
Take 2 Podcast: Election Security, UVU Review, Curtis Calls for Investigation
Heidi Hatch is joined by Maura Carabello with the Exoro Group and Rep. Ryan Wilcox, who sits on the Utah Legislative Law Enforcement and Criminal Justice Interim Committee. The 158-page UVU campus-safety review following the Charlie Kirk shooting: staffing, coordination and accountability. The Supreme Court allowing the Trump administration to use the SAVE database to check voter citizenship — and what it means for Utah’s election administration and voter privacy. The federal case against a U...
Sept. 18, 2026
Take 2 Podcast: Utah Lt. Gov. Deidre Henderson joins Heidi Hatch to discuss Utah’s legal fight with the U.S. Department of Justice
This week on the Take 2 podcast, Utah Lt. Gov. Deidre Henderson joins Heidi Hatch to discuss Utah’s legal fight with the U.S. Department of Justice over access to voters’ unredacted personal information. The interview was recorded Sept. 14, just hours before the U.S. Supreme Court ruled in the separate USPS case. Henderson says the lawsuit will not affect Utah’s upcoming election. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sept. 11, 2026
Take 2: 9/11 at 25, Charlie Kirk memorial debate, governor’s national profile
Heidi Hatch joins Maura Carabello and former Utah State Auditor John Dougall to examine how America has changed in the 25 years since 9/11 and debate plans to memorialize Charlie Kirk at UVU. They also discuss Gov. Spencer Cox’s “Disagree Better” campaign, questions surrounding his growing national profile and a Justice Department lawsuit challenging Utah’s in-state tuition policy for undocumented immigrants. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Sept. 4, 2026
Take 2 Podcast: Utah Legislature dives into issues months before the session
Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group, and Doug Fiefia, Utah representative and Senate candidate Utah Legislature dives into issues months before the session To Flock or Not to Flock? This week: Utah lawmaker to propose “parameters” for Flock cameras and ALPRs Two months out from Election Day President Trump on the campaign trail Bears Ears and Grand Staircase protections Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices
Aug. 28, 2026
Take 2 Returns: Election Watch, Data Centers, Where's the beef?
Take 2 Podcast Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello and Adam Gardiner Welcome back after the Take 2 summer break. While we were taking a break - Salt Lake City Mayor Erin Mendenhall’s divorce filing and whether she will run for reelection as Luz Escamilla enters the race. Sen. Todd Weiler’s new role leading the Sutherland Institute. Bears Ears and Grand Staircase-Escalante resized. The continuing war with Iran. More than half a million acres burned in Utah this summer. Flock camera...
July 2, 2026
Take 2 Podcast: Utah's wildfire crisis, Supreme Court decisions, and what's next in Utah politics
Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group & Utah House Speaker Mike Schultz Utah Legislative Primary Races Lessons Learned, who will lead the Utah Senate Wildfire Crisis in Utah Fallen Firefighters Three wildland firefighters killed on the Utah-Colorado border Two additional firefighters seriously injured Cottonwood Fire More than 100 condos and 30 cabins destroyed at Eagle Point Resort Damage assessment continues Wildland Firefighter Employment Protections Should part-tim...
June 26, 2026
Take 2 Podcast: Primary upsets, wildfire crisis, Washington politics
Hosts: Heidi Hatch Maura Carabello, Exoro Group Rob Axson, Utah GOP Chair (joining from Washington, D.C.) Fire danger across Utah Statewide fireworks restrictions and the new law allowing cities to designate safe discharge zones. The Cottonwood Fire in Beaver County, now expected to become the costliest wildfire in Utah history. Gov. Spencer Cox's comments on the destruction. Looking ahead to the dangerous fire weather forecast. Primary election shakeup Several high-profile incumbents l...
June 19, 2026
Take 2 Podcast: ICE detention, mail-in ballots, Congressional races, Iran deal
HOST: Heidi Hatch GUESTS: Maura Carabello, John Dougall ICE plans to sell warehouse facilities in Salt Lake, six other cities moving back to existing detention space “From day one, DHS has remained singularly focused on removing the worst of the worst criminal illegal aliens from the United States and is always evaluating the best methods to do so. These heinous criminals, once arrested, should be removed at lightning speed, not housed on American soil at the taxpayer’s expense. DHS is moving s...
June 12, 2026
Take 2 Podcast: Politics of Fire, Pentagon religion slight, Election drama, Colorado River
THE POLITICS OF FIRE Fires in Utah in full swing this week Tooele County, multiple fires, arson arrest SLC Capitol Hill Fire - State says started by homeless, City says they don’t know Mike Lee ignites controversy after adding roadless rule repeal to a wildfire bill 13-year-old girl dies at Pineview after dead tree falls: Would Pineview Reservoir be safer if it were a state park? Not US Forest Service land Pentagon Classification of Latter-day Saints Election Day 11 days out - Drama betwee...
June 5, 2026
Take 2 Podcast: Fidelity Month, Data Centers, Primary Debates, NIL Cash
Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello, Rep. Cal Roberts Gov. Spencer Cox declared June "Fidelity Month in Utah." In his declaration, Cox said that American support for traditional values has "significantly declined." "A majority of Americans no longer esteem values like faith, family, patriotism or community involvement," he continued. He said it is "imperative" that Utah's "recommit" themselves to the pursuit of fidelity, defined as "dedication to faith, family and country." DATA CENTER...
May 15, 2026
Take 2 Podcast: Speaker Mike Schultz on data center, 2028 governor's race
Heidi Hatch 2 News Maura Carabello, Exoro Group Mike Schultz, Utah House Speaker Data Center Referendum: A Box Elder County group wants voters there to decide proposed data center’s fate Elevate Utah accuses Speaker Mike Schultz of buying up property to profit off data Center Schultz, a cattle rancher in Box Elder and neighboring counties, responds Forget about 2026, everyone is talking 2028: John Curtis running for Governor 2028 RACE: Former Congressman Jason Chaffetz, Senator John Curti...
May 8, 2026
Take 2 Podcast: Deep dive on Utah's new Data Center, Justice resigns, Utah gas tax cut
Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Marua Carabello, Rep. Cal Roberts BREAKING: Utah Supreme Court Justice Diana Hagen resigns amid conflict-of-interest allegations in Prop 4 case Data Center passes Box Elder Commission vote 3-0 Better Utah calls for investigation into Senate Pres. Stuart Adams after donations to his PAC- but have no proof of wrongdoing Questions over lawmakers benefiting from Data Center How will Utah taxpayers benefit from new Data Center Utah Focus Legislative Session on AI: Sta...
May 1, 2026
Take 2: Assassination Attempt, Data Center, Statewide Convention winners and losers, Iran, SCOTUS ruling
Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello (Exoro Group), Thomas Wright (Former Utah GOP Chair, 2020 Gubernatorial Candidate, Real estate broker) White House correspondents’ dinner attempted assassination Utah Box Elder County Data Center Governor Cox: Utah and other states have an obligation to "allow" the sprawling facilities. "There is a national security piece to this that has to be acknowledged," Cox said in response to a 2News question at his monthly PBS Utah news conference. "We have to ...
April 24, 2026
Take 2 Podcast Convention weekend and the scandals in both parties
Host: Heidi Hatch Guest: Morgan Lyon Cotti Associate Director Hinckley Institute of Politics Conventions this weekend Delegates pick their candidates Inner party battles front and center Democrats now have 4 qualified candidates through signatures from the new Utah CD1 race 2 candidates facing accusation of wrongdoing Nate Blouin, Eval Lopez Chavez Republicans have an inner party fight in Utah CD3 Rep Celeste Maloy qualified through signatures Will Lyman get the nod from delegates or will ...
April 17, 2026
Take 2 Podcast: Political controversies and campaign shakeups rock Utah campaign season
Host: Heidi Hatch Gusts: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group & Nic Dunn, Sutherland Institute Utah Supreme Court justice faces allegations of impropriety in Prop 4 case In 2025, the Beehive Family earned $123,716 and paid $34,482 in taxes, about 28% of household income. That breaks down to nearly 2½ hours of every workday spent paying taxes UVU commencement speaker Sharon McMahon cancels Nate Blouin makes national headlines over vulgar social media history Utah legislative Democrats condemn Blouin...
April 10, 2026
Take 2 Podcast: JD Vance set to lead ceasefire talks this weekend, Utah gas prices higher than national average
Take 2 Podcast, Friday, April 10, 2026 Heidi Hatch with Maura Carabello of Exoro Group and Utah House Speaker Mike Schultz. Vice President JD Vance is set to lead ceasefire talks this weekend, as tensions tied to a potential conflict with Iran continue. There are ongoing questions about whether a ceasefire will hold and if the Strait of Hormuz will remain open. Gas prices in Utah are now higher than the national average, $4.26 compared to $4.16. Lawmakers are also discussing how the state’s ga...
April 3, 2026
Take 2 Podcast: Utah's Congressional Races, LDS GOP numbers shift, Washington County Sheriff
Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group & Carolyn Phippen, Political Advisor CD1: Democrats try new tactic to win House seat in Utah, running as progressives in red state Open Primary: Who will it favor? DATA FOR PROGRESS INTERNAL POLL RESULTS dfp_ut01_memo_crosstabs.pdf Signatures for D1 Blouin and McAdams will both be in the primary CD2: House Speaker Mike Johnson and Jim Jordan Endorse Blake Moore for Reelection– Lisonbee counting on Convention support- calls out Moore f...
March 27, 2026
Take 2 Podcast: Prop 4 dead? Trump pays TSA, No water for ICE, Vetoes, Big bills on Utah’s Capitol Hill
Take 2 Podcast March 27 Heidi Hatch Maura Carabello Exoro Group Rep Ryan Wilcox Utah Legislature Repeal Prop 4 dies in Senate District 15 with signature removals Trump signs emergency order to pay TSA agents as Congress struggles to reach funding deal SLC Mayor Mendenhall: No water for ICE facility Governor Cox vetoes: HB462: Gov. Spencer Cox vetoes bill providing internet service on Utah’s rural school buses HB164: Would have required health care providers to tell patients how to file c...
March 20, 2026
Take 2: ICE controversy intensifies as Utah Gov. Cox releases unity-focused book
Host: Heidi Hatch Maura Carabello Exoro Group John Dougall Former State Auditor Utah Caucus night Utah House Speaker Mike Schultz endorses Karianne Lisonbee against incumbent Congressman Blake Moore Prop 4 Repeal Update – Senator Riebe District within striking distance for Better Boundaries 102 signatures beyond requirement ICE warehouse SLC spurs protests and condemnation from SLC and County Mayor’s Utah Democrats SLC Mayor Mendenhall says they won’t run utilities and can’t to the wareho...
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March 11, 2026
Take 2 Podcast: Utah Legislative Session, Utah Congressional Races Shaping up
Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group • Rob Axson, Utah GOP Chair Utah Legislative Session Sen. Adams kills bill passed seconds after midnight Last-minute signature removal law passed Utahns for Representative Government gets signatures to put repeal of Prop 4 on the ballot The petition to repeal Utah Proposition 4 ended up with nearly 166,000 verified signatures. Signature removal deadline: April 23 Utah Congressional Races Shaping up Utah CD1 Race shifting to the lef...
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Feb. 27, 2026
Take 2: State of the Union hit or miss? Prop 4 signature verification; SAVE Act
Take 2 Podcast – Friday 2/27 Host Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello, John Dougall State of the Union Hit or miss Senator Mike Lee’s SAVE America Act received a standing ovation. Congressman Blake Moore recognized in the third row (no name) for naming Trump accounts. Some Democrats held an alternate event outside in animal costumes. Democratic leadership had Virginia Gov. Abigail Spanberger deliver the rebuttal, focusing on affordability. Proposition 4 Signature Verification Utah GOP h...
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Feb. 19, 2026
Take 2 Podcast: Redistricting Rulings, Prop 4 Repeal, Lawmakers Advance Tax Cuts
Host: Heidi Hatch Guests: Maura Carabello, Exoro Group & John Dougall, Former State Auditor Judge’s Ruling in Redistricting cases Federal District Court Utah Supreme Court UFRG and Utah GOP surpass expectations, turn in 200K + signatures Current verified signatures 117,114 HB 575, Fuel Tax and Supply Amendments, Rep. Cal Roberts, R-Salt Lake New Gas Tax bill reduces rate by 6 cents a gallon, a 15.8% savings – well below below original 20 Cents a gallon Presser expected Monday: State Lea...