Episodes

Continuing the conversation from our last episode, Susan and Angie share their experience mirroring Jesus and talk about the challenges we face when we shift from watching the Master to trying to live like the Master.

Expanding on her recent article in Celebrate Arkansas, Susan sits down with guest Angie Elrod to discuss the rare phenomenon of right-handed individuals becoming left-handed golfers through mirroring. This parallels our spiritual life, as we can overcome our natural inclinations by mirroring our master and teacher, Jesus.

In this continuation of Susan and Steve’s conversation, they share the story of Elgie Goss and the people who shaped his life. One mentor, in particular, helped change the course of Elgie's life and inspired him to become an educator himself. Steve shares stories from his dad’s life, the hardships he faced, and the gratitude he carried through it all. Together, they reflect on how one person’s life can shape another—and how what we pour into others can live on long after us.

Susan sits down with her husband, Steve, to remember his father, Elgie Goss—a beloved patriarch who recently passed. After discovering a book of poetry Elgie had written throughout his life, they share some of his poems and the stories behind them. Together, they reflect on the hardships Elgie faced, his unwavering gratitude, and the lessons we can learn from a life marked by faith, thankfulness, and perseverance.

What if giving thanks could actually change the way you think, feel, and live? In this episode, Susan sits down with Rashel Townsend to explore the science behind gratitude and the powerful impact it can have on both our minds and bodies. Rooted in 1 Chronicles 16:34, they unpack why gratitude matters and share simple, practical ways you can start cultivating it in your own life today!

This week Susan is joined by her friend, Rashel Townsend. Together, they explore 1 Chronicles 16:34: "Give thanks to the LORD, for he is good! His faithful love endures forever." (NLT) What began as the theme verse for "Honey Camp"—the special week Susan and Steve host their grandchildren each summer—became real as unexpected health scares impacted their family. Listen as Susan shares how God used this verse to guide and ground her through those difficult days.

This week, Susan is joined once again by her friend, Rashel Townsend! Susan often says, "Our relationships are only as healthy as we are." And that's exactly what this conversation is about. Join them as they talk about the importance of an ordered heart rooted in God, how that shapes the way we handle relational conflict, and the dangers of passivity, people-pleasing, misplaced identity and more!

In this episode Susan is joined again by her friend, Rashel Townsend! Susan and Rashel explore the topic of Order vs. Chaos as it relates to the heart… What are the characteristics of an ordered heart? What about a chaotic heart? How does each one affect us and those around us? The two of them share personal struggles and practical ways we can begin bringing more order into our lives. And we're not talking about organizing the pantry—we're talking about allowing God to redirect us when we’ve g...

In this episode, Susan sits down with Brandon Swoboda from Workmatters to talk about how our jobs often become our identity, but God has a much greater design and purpose for our work…He uses our work to draw us closer to Him. As Brandon reminds us, "Work is still good. How do we know that? Because it was created when things were still good.” (Genesis 1)

This week, Susan is joined again by Brandon Swoboda for a meaningful conversation on cultivating faithfulness through legacy and discipleship. Together, they explore the importance of men pursuing mentorship—both as disciples and disciplers—and how God uses that to shape us, our families, our communities, and future generations. If you’ve ever wondered what it practically looks like to build a life that outlasts you, this conversation will challenge and encourage you in the best way.

“What are you chasing?” In this episode, Susan sits down with Brandon Swoboda, CEO and President of Workmatters, for a thoughtful conversation about biblical manhood and the importance of reflection. Together, they explore what happens when work, success, and striving become our goal, why stillness and reflection can feel so difficult, and how true formation begins when we learn to sit with God. Whether you’re a man or someone who loves and walks alongside the men in your life, this conversati...

This is Part 2 of a two-part conversation all about Circle Talk. In this episode of the Tangible Truth Podcast, Susan — licensed professional counselor and author of Circle Talk: Control the Controllable and Release the Rest — is joined again by Rashel for a meaningful conversation about control and surrender. Resources: Purchase your own Circle Talk book! Interested in going through the full Circle Talk workshop? Have Susan lead your group through Circle Talk! The Tangible Truth Ministries...

Are you a self-proclaimed “control freak” but don’t know what to do about it? In this episode of the Tangible Truth Podcast, Susan — licensed professional counselor and author of Circle Talk: Control the Controllable and Release the Rest — is joined again by Rashel for a meaningful conversation about control and surrender. Together, they unpack how the constant need to control outcomes, people, or circumstances can deeply impact our mental health and relationships — and how God invites us into...

In honor of Mental Health Awareness Month, we’re talking all about counseling! Who is counseling for? How do you know if counseling is the next best step for you? Is fear getting in your way? Hear from Susan, a licensed professional counselor, and Rashel, someone who’s experienced counseling firsthand, as they answer some questions you may be having and dive into how we can know when counseling might be the next step we need to take.

When was the last time you paused to check in with how you’re really doing? In this episode, Susan and Rashel explore the importance of emotional awareness and how it shapes both personal well-being and the health of our relationships. Join the conversation as they share insights, relatable experiences, and tangible ways to take steps towards emotional maturity. Scripture References Mark 12:30 Matthew 22:37-38 Deuteronomy 6:5 Book Reference Emotionally Healthy Spirituality by Peter Scazz...

Part 4 (the finale) is here! This week on Tangible Truth Podcast with Susan & Friends, we’re wrapping up our April series: “Our Relationship with Our Bodies.” Through this series, Susan & Rashel have opened up about walking with the Lord through seasons of struggle, the lies the enemy tries to plant about our bodies, and the practical ways we can fight back with truth. And now—we’re closing it out by answering these questions: What does a right and healthy relationship with our bodies look li...

This week on the Tangible Truth Podcast with Susan & Friends, we’re back with Part 3 of our series, “Our Relationship with Our Bodies.” Susan is joined again by Rashel Townsend as they continue the conversation—this time exposing the enemy’s lies and the subtle and obvious ways they take root and reshape how we see our bodies. Together, they unpack these distortions and share practical, tangible steps to help you recognize and confront the lies you may be believing. Our hope is that these prac...

This week we continue the conversation with guest and friend, Rashel Townsend, as we dive deeper into our relationship with our bodies—a topic we don’t often slow down to talk about, but one that impacts all of us. In this episode, Susan shares her powerful story of navigating bullying and chronic pain, offering an honest look at the struggles that can shape how we see ourselves. Yet even in the midst of hardship, there is hope. Join us as we explore how we can ground ourselves in our unchangi...

Did you know that 3 of the top 5 New Year's Resolutions all have to do with our bodies? They are: exercise more, eat healthier, and lose weight. But...are we striving for these things for the right reasons? All this month, Susan and the new Tangible Truth Executive Assistant, Rashel Townsend, are sharing their stories of walking with God and of a sometimes toxic relationship with their bodies. For more Information on NWA Gives: Tangible Truth Ministries

The response to our "Family of Origin" Series has been so beautiful. To finish out this powerful talk, Susan and Sarah Schafer bring it home with scriptures on love and how only God can break a hard heart so that we can truly find healing, express love, and give forgiveness. To Learn More about how you can JOIN THE HEALING for Tangible Truth on NWA Gives Day, head to our Website: Tangible Truth Ministries. Intro Music Courtesy of: Music by ANDRII KORNIEV for PIXABY

We have had such an amazing response to our "Family of Origin" Series that Susan has invited a friend and fellow counselor, Sarah Schafer, to weigh in on this heavy topic. This week, they are talking about how God's love fits into the picture of our "Family of Origin."

To round out our Family of Origin Series, Susan, Keri, Angie, and Kristen will delve into the story of Joseph and how it is a beautiful example of working WITH God to move past the negatives we might have grown up with.

Susan is back in the studio with Keri, Kristen, and Angie to continue digging into "Family of Origin." This week - family secrets and sweeping the negative under the rug.

The studio is full this week as Keri Sallee, Angie Elrod, and Kristen Schatzman join Susan to discuss why learning more about our personal "Family of Origin" stories is the first step to finding healing and wholeness in our present lives.