That Said With Michael Zeldin

That Said With Michael Zeldin

That Said, is a weekly series that will take a comprehensive look at the ideas, events, and people who shape our world. Led by TV legal and political analyst Michael Zeldin, his candid conversations with bestselling authors, thought leaders, and opinion-makers will explore their ideas to help move u...

Ian Buruma | Stay Alive, Berlin 1939-1945
That Said With Michael Zeldin
Ian Buruma | Stay Alive, Berlin 1939-1945

Recent Episodes

Nov. 10, 2026

Ian Buruma | Stay Alive, Berlin 1939-1945

Join Michael in his conversation with Ian Buruma discussing his new book Stay Alive, Berlin 1939-1945 which is an astonishing account of life under the Nazi regime. Most importantly, the book asks the question how do ordinary people behave morally when their survival requires accommodation to an immoral system? Ian Buruma was born in the Netherlands. He studied Chinese at Leiden University and cinema at Nihon University, Tokyo. He has lived and worked in Tokyo, Hong Kong, London, and New York. H
Oct. 27, 2026

Dana Bash | The Elections That Changed the World, Fifteen Pivotal Moments That Shaped How We Live

Join Michael in his conversation with Dana Bash about her important new book The Elections That Changed the World, Fifteen Pivotal Moments That Shaped How We Live which is a riveting exploration of what they consider to be among the most crucial elections in history from Julius Caesar to Nelson Mandela. Dana Bash is CNN's chief political correspondent, anchor of Inside Politics with Dana Bash weekdays at 12pmET, and co-anchor of State of the Union with Jake Tapper and Dana Bash, the network's S
Oct. 12, 2026

Richard North Patterson | Tripwires

Join Michael in his conversation with Richard North Patterson about his new book Tripwires, 15 Twenty-First-Century Events That Undermined American Democracy—And How to Reclaim It which identifies a series of self-inflicted wounds and destabilizing societal trends that have led America to the precipice of Autocracy and lays out a program for reversing the harm. Richard North Patterson is the author of twenty-three novels, sixteen of which have been New York Times bestsellers, as well as a nonfic
Sept. 25, 2026

The Midnight Special: The Secret Prison History of American Music | Colin Asher

Join Michael in his conversation with Colin Asher about his new book The Midnight Special, The Secret Prison History of American Music which explores the rich tradition of music behind bars and shows how policing and prisons have shaped our musical culture from blues to hip-hop. After spending a decade as a bicycle messenger among other things, Colin received a Bachelors of Science degree from Northeastern University, and a Master of Arts from the Columbia University Graduate School of Journalis
Sept. 17, 2026

Julian Zelizer | Abraham Joshua Heschel, A Life of Radical Amazement | re-release

Join Michael Zeldin as he speaks with Princeton historian Julian Zelizer about his book, Abraham Joshua Heschel, A Life of Radical Amazement. In his lifetime, Rabbi Heschel helped to carve out space for progressive religious voices on the national and international stage in the civil rights, anti-war, and religious freedom movements. Coretta Scott King, called Heschel “one of the great men of our times.” Julian Zelizer is the Malcolm Stevenson Forbes, Class of 1941 Professor of History and Publ
Sept. 11, 2026

The Wreck of the Mentor | Eric Jay Dolin

Join Michael in his conversation with best–selling author Eric Jay Dolin about his latest book The Wreck of the Mentor which tells the story of the American whaling ship Mentor, wrecked in 1832 on a remote reef in the western Pacific. With supplies dwindling, the eleven surviving crewmen face not only the miseries of shipwreck in unfamiliar territory but also the profound uncertainty of contact with the Indigenous people of the Micronesian archipelago of Palau, who within days approach the deser