Episodes

Join Michael as he speaks with Molly Ball, author of the biography, Pelosi, about Speaker Pelosi’s decision to step down from her leadership role in the House of Representatives. Molly, having spoken to the Speaker just after her floor speech announcing her decision will offer her understanding of what led to Pelosi’s decision, her expectations for the democrats and the upcoming Congress, and her reflections of Speaker Pelosi’s legacy. This conversation will be followed by an encore presentation...

Join Michael Zeldin for this extraordinary 90-minute conversation with Max Weinberg, Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame drummer from Bruce Springsteen’s E Street Band, as they discuss Max’s musical career, his thoughts on music and drumming, his recollections of other great drummers, especially the late Rolling Stones drummer Charlie Watts, and much more. Guest Max Weinberg, Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame drummer from Bruce Springsteen’s E Street Band Max “the Mighty Max” Weinberg. A bundle of drive, neuros...

Join Michael Zeldin in his conversation with Professor Eddie Glaude, Jr., the James S. McDonnell Distinguished Professor of African American Studies at Princeton University and author of Begin Again, James Baldwin’s America and Its Urgent Lessons for Our Own. The writings of James Baldwin and Dr. Glaude’s elicitation of the important lessons they have to teach us about the aftertimes in which we find ourselves and the steps we need to take if we are to find a progressive path forward for our cou...

Join Michael Zeldin in a conversation with Philip Rucker and Carol Leonnig, Authors ofI Alone Can Fix It, Donald J. Trump's Catastrophic Final Year: a compelling analysis of former President Trump’s final year in office as he struggled to lead the nation through the worst pandemic in a century. Rucker and Leonnig recount the pandemic debates within the Administration as well as provide insight into Trump’s response to the Black Lives Matter protests, his election defeat, and the January 6thattac...

Join Michael Zeldin in a conversation with Dan Abrams, Author, Kennedy's Avenger: Assassination, Conspiracy, and the Forgotten Trial of Jack Ruby. They will explore the twists and turns of one of the most publicized and surprising criminal trials in U.S. history. Guest Dan Abrams Dan Abrams is the CEO and Founder of Abrams Media and the Chief Legal Affairs Anchor for ABC News and was previously the co-anchor of Nightline. Prior to 2011, Dan was at NBC News for 15 years as, among other things, a ...

Join Michael Zeldin in a conversation with April Ryan, White House Correspondent & Washington Bureau Chief for TheGrio, Political Analyst for CNN and Author, At Mama’s Knee, Mothers and Race in Black and White.

Join Michael Zeldin in a conversation with Princeton historian, Julian Zelizer, about his book, Burning Down the House: Newt Gingrich, The Fall of a Speaker, and the Rise of the New Republican Party. In Burning Down the House, Zelizer pinpoints the moment when Gingrich began steering our country onto a path of bitter partisanship and ruthless politics — which culminated in the election of Donald Trump. Perhaps more than any other politician, Gingrich introduced the rhetoric and tactics that have...

Event Overview Join Michael Zeldin as he speaks with CNN Legal Analyst Asha Rangappa and MSNBC Legal Analyst Glenn Kirschner as they discuss the legal issues faced by former President Trump and his ecosystem. Topics will include Trump’s attacks on the social media companies which banned him from their platforms, the criminal indictment and continuing investigation of Weisselberg and the Trump Organization by the Manhattan District Attorney’s office and the Department of Justice investigations, a...

Join Michael Zeldin in his conversation with Beatriz Williams, author of Our Woman in Moscow, a historical fiction of Cold War espionage and family devotion, loosely inspired by the Cambridge spy ring. Guest Beatriz Williams Beatriz Williams is the New York Times, USA Today, and internationally bestselling author of Our Woman in Moscow, The Summer Wives, Her Last Flight, The Golden Hour, The Secret Life of Violet Grant, A Hundred Summers, and several other works of historical fiction, including ...

Join Michael Zeldin for this timely conversation of anti-Asian racism with Daniel James Brown as they discuss his book, Facing the Mountain: A True Story of Japanese American Heroes in World War II: a compelling saga of patriotism, highlighting the contributions and sacrifices that Japanese Americans and their families made for the sake of the country and the world. Guest Daniel James Brown I grew up in the San Francisco Bay Area and attended Diablo Valley College, the University of California a...

Join Michael Zeldin for this important conversation on race in America with Don Lemon as they discuss his book, This Is The Fire: What I Say to My Friends About Racism. This frank conversation addresses the root causes of systemic racism and the steps that must be taken to eradicate it: Commitment, forbearance, and hard work. In recognition of Juneteenth, CommPRO & The Museum of Public Relations are pleased to share this special episode of That Said With Michael Zeldin podcast. Guest Don Lemon,...

Join Michael Zeldin for Part II of his interview with CNN anchor and media analyst Brian Stelter on his best-seller, HOAX: Donald Trump, Fox News, and the Dangerous Distortion of Truth. Even before the Trump administration, communicators have long been intrigued by the curious friendship forged by conservative commentators with conservatives in government. But this was the first administration where the friendship is so obvious in its mutual dependence and co-existence. In this no-holds-barred...

About Join Michael Zeldin as he interviews CNN anchor and media analyst Brian Stelter on his best-seller, HOAX: Donald Trump, Fox News, and the Dangerous Distortion of Truth. Even before the Trump administration, communicators have long been intrigued by the curious friendship forged by conservative commentators with conservatives in government. But this was the first administration where the friendship is so obvious in its mutual dependence and co-existence. In this no-holds-barred discussion...

Join Michael Zeldin in his conversation with Jake Tapper, Lead Washington Anchor for CNN, and host of the weekday television news show The Lead with Jake Tapper and co-host of the Sunday morning public affairs program State of the Union as they discuss his new book, The Devil May Dance, Jake’s follow-up to his New York Times bestseller, The Hellfire Club. Follow Charlie and Margaret Marder as they investigate Hollywood, the mob, Sinatra and the Rat Pack, and the Kennedys. Guest Jake Tapper CNN a...

The template for the renewed battle against the Taliban in Afghanistan may well be found in Gayle Tzemach Lemmon’s book, The Daughters of Kobani: A Story of Rebellion, Courage, and Justice, (2021): the story of how the all-women’s Syrian Kurdish militia (YPJ) defeated ISIS and left in its wake the most far-reaching experiment in women’s justice and equality in their corner of the Middle East and beyond. Join Michael Zeldin in his conversation with Gayle as they discuss her book and its portends ...

Join Michael Zeldin as he interviews Peter Baker and Susan Glasser– authors of “The Man Who Ran Washington: the Life and Times of James Baker III,” a chief of staff and secretary of state for 25 years, an era when Washington was regarded as the world’s political center. The authors will discuss how Baker’s legacy compares with the current officials in DC and lessons we can learn about the administrations he helped to lead. Guests Peter Baker & Susan Glasser Peter Baker is the chief White House c...

Join Michael Zeldin in his conversation with Anna Sale host of the WNYC podcast Death, Sex and Money and author of the new book, Let’s Talk about Hard Things as they discuss big questions about death, family, sex, and money that are too often left out of polite, everyday conversation. Listen as they explore ways to talk about the things we think about a lot but need to talk about more. Guest Anna Sale Anna Sale is the creator and host of Death, Sex & Money, the podcast from WNYC Studios about “t...

Join Michael Zeldin for this important conversation with Bakari Sellers. Named one of Time Magazine’s 40 under 40, Sellers became the youngest-ever African American elected official when sworn into the South Carolina State Legislature at the age of 22 in 2006. After earning a BA at Morehouse and JD at the Univ. of South Carolina, Sellers has taken up the causes of his father, Dr. Cleveland Sellers, the renowned civil rights leader. His recent book, My Vanishing Country: A Memoir, charts his extr...

Join Michael Zeldin in his conversation with Mark Salter, Author of The Luckiest Man: Life with John McCain. Salter collaborated with John McCain on all seven of their books, including The Restless Wave, Faith of My Fathers, Worth the Fighting For, Why Courage Matters, Character Is Destiny, Hard Call, and Thirteen Soldiers. He served on Senator McCain’s staff for eighteen years. Guest Mark Salter Author of "The Luckiest Man: Life with John McCain" Mark Salter is an American speechwriter from Da...

There can be no question but that Abraham Lincoln embodies the best of what America can be and thus his wisdom endures. Join me and Professor Michael Gerhardt as we explore how Lincoln became Lincoln and what he can still teach us on this 156th anniversary of his assassination. Guest Professor Michael J. Gerhardt, Burton Craige Distinguished Professor of Jurisprudence at the University of North Carolina School of Law Michael Gerhardt joined the Carolina Law faculty in 2005 and serves as the Burt...

Join Michael Zeldin in his conversation with Ron Brownstein, Senior Editor at the Atlantic and CNN senior political analyst, as they discuss his new book, Rock Me on the Water which examines how politics and culture intertwined to reshape American life in the transition from the optimism of the 1960s to the reality of the early 1970s. Ron Brownstein is a two-time finalist for the Pulitzer Prize for his coverage of presidential campaigns and national politics. Guest Ron Brownstein Senior Editor ...

Watch On-Demand Video Watch On-Demand Video Throughout their history, Asians in America have faced massive racial discrimination from indentured servitude to exclusion laws through internment during World War II. Asian Americans continue to face ongoing discrimination in myriad ways. The Atlanta spa murders, while a grotesque manifestation of this history, is sadly not an isolated event. Join Michael Zeldin in his conversation with Jennifer Ho, President of the Association for Asian American S...

Douglas Brinkley, Rice University Professor of Humanities and History and CNN Presidential historian, joins host Michael Zeldin to discuss how history will assess the Trump presidency and Trumpism, the rise in domestic terrorism and censorship in social media during Trump’s tenure, and the relationship between Congress and the Biden administration. Guest Douglas Brinkley Douglas Brinkley is the Katherine Tsanoff Brown Chair in Humanities and Professor of History at Rice University, CNN Preside...

Join Michael Zeldin in his conversation with The Washington Post Chief Correspondent Dan Balz as they break down the recent presidential election and discuss how Joe Biden won and the specific challenges that await the Biden administration and the country more broadly. What message does this send about the United States on the global stage? What is the impact on main street and Wall Street? Guest Dan Balz Chief correspondent covering national politics, the presidency and Congress. Education: Un...