Progressive Love and Communication (Part 2)
Progressive Love and Communication (Part 2)
with Kenya and Carl Stevens
(Season 2 | Episode 96)
[TESSA] In Carl’s words:
One of the major things that Kenya was focused on was the freedom of women: to express themselves sexually in the ways that they desire to, without being judged by the ways of society. We studied things like Tantra and Sacred Sexuality. That pushed us into the ‘open arena.’ It is really important to me that Kenya can express herself and be free, not be caged. And not feel like she is going to be judged for having desires.
This is part two of our conversation with Kenya and Carl. To listen to part one, click here.
Kenya and Carl: Progressive Love Academy
Kenya K. Stevens is a relationship expert, love coach, best-selling author, wife, and mother of three. Kenya attended Howard University in Washington D.C. where she graduated in 1997 with a degree in Education/ Psychology.
Not only did she scoop up a degree, but she also met and married a fellow Howard student Carl Stevens.
In 2005 this power couple founded built JujuMama LLC, now known as Progressive Love Academy into a worldwide love coaching conglomerate, training center for coaches and online Love Academy.
And – some news right now – look for their new podcast, The Benefit is Love, coming soon.
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Resources for You
We want to provide you with support and many resources for your own Open Nesting Journey. Our resource page has so much to offer as does our private discussion group on Facebook about queerness and other topics of interest:
About Tessa
Tessa Krone is the engine behind and the face of The Open Nesters.
Tessa holds an MA in Consciousness Studies and is a speaker, coach, program and journey facilitator & leader, author and, of course, Podcaster.
Her offerings are based in her mission to help people open to their most self-expressed, loving selves. Tessa’s specialties include embodiment from all the senses and elements of our inner and outer lives, ranging from mindfulness, dance, play, and sensory exploration in nature. If she had one superpower, it would be to help people, especially as they age, to live more open hearted lives.

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What do you need to OPEN your NEST? In your LIFE. In your BODY. In your SPIRIT. Do you need MORE…
- Adventure
- Freedom of Expression
- Exploration and Fun
- Body Movement
- New circles of friends
- Deep love relationships
