Episodes

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 57 Series: Digital Discipleship How do we theologically navigate a world where we are creating a new form of intelligence in our own image? With the rise of AI and large language models, the Church must wrestle with profound questions about technology, humanity, and faith. Join us for a thought-provoking conversation with philosopher and theologian York Moore as we explore the implications of AI for the future of the church. If you’re leading a church in the ne...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 56 Series: Digital Discipleship You might not expect someone who has managed billions of dollars in church building projects to be passionate about digital ministry—but Nathan Artt is. Having experienced its impact firsthand, he sees digital ministry as a vital part of the church’s future, both online and in physical spaces. Join us for a fascinating conversation on how the digital realm can be seamlessly woven into church buildings and in-person gatherings to ...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 55 Series: Digital Discipleship Live streaming is just the beginning—true digital ministry goes far beyond broadcasting. Join us for a conversation with Jason Morris as we explore how to move beyond the livestream and into authentic, transformative discipleship in the online space. — Host: Mark Lutz, Digital Church NEXT, Director Guest: Jason Morris, The Church.Digital, Equipping and Mobilization Director Category: Digital Church NEXT —

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 54 Series: Digital Discipleship Saddleback Church is one of the most influential churches in the world, and for years, Jay Kranda has been at the forefront of its digital ministry. With unparalleled experience in leading online church communities, Jay has helped shape the future of digital discipleship. Join us for an insightful conversation as we discuss the evolution of online ministry at Saddleback, how new campuses have emerged through their digital presenc...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 53 Series: Multiethnic Church Planting For this episode, join our conversation with missiologist Daniel Yang as he shares how the world is coming to us through immigration. We also talk about the tremendous need and value of planting immigrant churches, as well as ethnic specific churches, to reach all the nations. — Hosts: Len Tang – Multiethnic Church Planting NEXT, Director Corey Lee – Fuller Church Planting Initiative, Director of Content and Partnership...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 52 Series: Multiethnic Church Planting In this episode, sociologist Korie Little shares her research and practical insights into how planters of color can heal and overcome the racial challenges to lead healthy multiethnic churches. — Hosts: Len Tang – Multiethnic Church Planting NEXT, Director Corey Lee – Fuller Church Planting Initiative, Director of Content and Partnerships Guest: Korie Little – Ohio State University, Associate Professor of Sociology C...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 51 Series: Multiethnic Church Planting In this conversation, Troy Evans shares that, in a time of diminishing congregational giving, multiethnic planters need strong partnerships to develop multiple streams of income. We’ll explore examples of life-giving partnerships and emerging funding models to launch financially healthy churches, including intentional bi-vocational options. — Hosts: Len Tang – Multiethnic Church Planting NEXT, Director Corey Lee – Fulle...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 50 Series: Multiethnic Church Planting In this episode, we welcome Soong-Chan Rah as he shares his insights on how multiethnic church plants can draw out the distinctive gifts and strengths of the congregation. Learn how multiethnic church plants can integrate the reconcilation and justice of Jesus with a winsome evangelistic witness. — Hosts: Len Tang – Multiethnic Church Planting NEXT, Director Corey Lee – Fuller Church Planting Initiative, Director of Con...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 49 Series: Multiethnic Church Planting Join us as Len Tang and Corey Lee have a conversation with Heidy Tandy, Senior Director of Discovery at Stadia. Heidy shares what Stadia has learned from revamping their church planter assessment process to include diverse planters and church planting models. — Hosts: Len Tang – Multiethnic Church Planting NEXT, Director Corey Lee – Fuller Church Planting Initiative, Director of Content and Partnerships Guest: Heidy T...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 48 Series: Multiethnic Church Planting In this episode, Dhati Lewis from MyBlvd joins Len Tang and Corey Lee as they discuss the specific kind of training that diverse, urban missionaries, and planters need to reach their communities. — Hosts: Len Tang – Multiethnic Church Planting NEXT, Director Corey Lee – Fuller Church Planting Initiative, Director of Content and Partnerships Guest: Dhati Lewis – MyBlvd, Founder Category: Multiethnic Church Planting NE...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 47 Series:Multiethnic Church Planting Our multiethnic church planting conversation begins with the leaders of the Multiethnic Collaborative, a group of church planting leaders of color seeking to raise up the next generation of diverse church planters. — Host: Len Tang – Multiethnic Church Planting NEXT, Director Corey Lee – Fuller Church Planting Initiative, Director of Content and Partnerships Guests: Chris Brooks – Clarendon Capital Ventures, Co-Founder...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 46 Series: What’s Next With AI for Churches? In this episode of What’s NEXT with AI for Churches?, Kenny Jahng interviews Jay Owen, Executive Director at The Church of Eleven22, to discuss how artificial intelligence is reshaping the landscape of church ministry. They explore practical applications that the church is pursuing with AI, share real-life examples of cost-effective innovations, and talk about what’s next in AI for ministry leaders. — Host: Kenny J...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 45 Series: What’s Next With AI for Churches? In this episode, Jason Malec, Director of Gloo AI, sits down with host Kenny Jahng to explore the parallels between Napster’s disruption of the music industry and today’s AI-driven challenges for content creators. Jason shares a compelling vision for protecting intellectual property in a digital age, outlining principles like consent, credit, and compensation to ensure creators retain control and honor over their work...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 44 Series: What’s Next With AI for Churches? In this episode, Kenny Jahng sits down with Corey Alderin, founder of Sermon Shots, to discuss how AI can help churches extend the reach of their sermons far beyond Sunday. Corey shares how his innovative platform makes it simple to transform sermons into impactful short-form videos, devotionals, and global outreach tools in just minutes. From practical tips on leveraging social media to insights on dispelling AI misc...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 43 Series: What’s Next With AI for Churches? Dive into this episode of the AI NEXT series, What’s NEXT with AI for Churches? where host Kenny Jahng sits down with James Poulter, Head of AI at House 337, to explore how artificial intelligence is reshaping ministry, society, and relationships. From conversational AI to artificial general intelligence (AGI), this episode tackles the ethical, practical, and spiritual implications of AI—and what it all means for chur...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 42 Series: What’s Next With AI for Churches? In this episode of What’s Next with AI for Churches?, AI NEXT Director, Kenny Jahng sits down with Jason Moore, author of the book, AI and the Church, to explore the real opportunities and challenges of AI in ministry. Jason breaks down common misconceptions, addresses ethical concerns like data privacy, and highlights how AI can assist—not replace—church leaders. From practical use cases that save time to tips for fo...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 41 Series: What’s Next With AI for Churches? In this episode, Kenny Jahng, Director of AI NEXT, interviews Natchi Lazarus, an internationally recognized expert in faith-based marketing and AI innovation. Together, they dive into a powerful and often-overlooked opportunity: how church leaders can leverage AI to become true digital disruptors and pioneers in the crowded world of social media and content creation. The conversation revolves around a critical questio...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 40 Series: What’s Next With AI for Churches? In this episode, host Kenny Jahng sits down with Brian Beauford, Executive Pastor at Grace Church, to explore how pastors can use AI to repurpose their sermons into powerful, engaging content. Learn how to transform long-form sermons into short video clips, blog posts, discussion guides, daily devotionals, and more—reaching your congregation and beyond throughout the week. Packed with practical tools, creative ideas, ...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 39 Series: Snapshots of Innovation Episode Description: In this episode, we talk with Dave Miller, co-founder of Leadership Pathway and Cliff Forbes, Executive Director of Trellis Churches. Both of these organizations are rethinking leadership development for the next generation through an innovative approach to funding, training, and equipping future pastors and leaders. Explore NEXT Ventures and our portfolio of projects at exponential.org/ventures. Host: Jo...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 38 Series: Snapshots of Innovation In this episode, we have a conversation with Drew Cline, a pastor and church planter in Little Rock, AR that successfully relaunched a historic legacy church and is now reinventing the ministry once again through South City 2.0/317 Coffee & Cafe. We also hear from Joel Lutz, Executive Director of mosaiXmultiply, an organization helping to plant hundreds of multi-cultural churches around the globe. Explore NEXT Ventures and our...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 37 Series: Snapshots of Innovation In this episode, we chat with Jordan Bochinski, one of the founders of the Collide Conference now reaching thousands of young adults in Canada. Jordan shares his story of revival and life transformation in this post-Christian country. We then talk with Emilee Westervelt, Executive Director of The Lovely Project, a non-profit empowering young women in midde schools and high schools across central Florida. Explore NEXT Ventures ...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 36 Series: Snapshots of Innovation In this episode, we begin with an interview with Greg Atkinson, founder of EntreChurch, a ministry that helps pastors and churches rethink missional engagement by starting and supporting local businesses. We then hear the story of Carl Johnson, an entrepreneurial pastor in St. Paul, MN, who has a passion to “vigorously plant churches in impoverished communities” through an entrepreneurial approach with Faith City Church Network...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 35 Series: Snapshots of Innovation In our second episode of this series, we feature Victor Glover, CEO of Fathers on the Move, an organization empowering formerly incarcerated men to lead their families and churches on purpose. We will also learn from Akram Hadeed, an app developer and the founder of Streets of Prayer, whose audacious dream is to cover every street in the world with prayer by 2030. Explore NEXT Ventures and our portfolio of projects at exponent...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 34 Series: Snapshots of Innovation In our first episode, we will feature Josh Dotzler, CEO of Abide Ministries in Omaha, Nebraska. Josh is pioneering a new approach to cultivating God’s presence in the city by purchasing and renovating distressed homes and then placing families to reach their neighborhoods for Christ through Lighthouse Project. Our second conversation is with Juan Chavez, Director of AZ Reach in Phoenix, AZ who has launched a mentoring ministry ...