Episodes

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 33 Series: Becoming a Future-Ready Church Church leaders will need to learn how to embrace the many modes of church and work collaboratively with others to transform a community. In the first half of this episode, co-authors Daniel Yang, Warren Bird and Adelle Banks discuss models that range from mega to micro — and some that are both. As the conversation continues, the co-authors provide a “next steps” overview of the shifts proposed in the book Becoming a Fut...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 32 Series: Becoming a Future-Ready Church This episode opens up with a discussion between Warren Bird, Daniel Yang, and Adelle Banks, co-authors of the upcoming book Becoming a Future-Ready Church. The co-authors talk about how the role of race and ethnicity will become strongly linked to how God will use the Gospel to bless every “tribe and language and people and nation.” The episode continues with a conversation between Adelle Banks and Justin and Janae Klat...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 31 Series: Becoming a Future-Ready Church This episode kicks off with Adelle Banks engaging in a conversation with Rosario “Roz” Picardo, founding pastor and co-pastor of Mosaic Church. Their discussion focuses on the idea that churches must develop a new depth of hospitality—far more than an usher’s welcome or a cup of coffee after worship. The episode continues with the co-authors, Warren Bird, Daniel Yang, and Adelle Banks sharing how church leaders will need...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 30 Series: Becoming a Future-Ready Church In the first part of this episode, Adelle Banks talks to Carl Johnson, Lead Pastor of Faith City Church. They discuss how family life is changing, specifically engaging the social factors that disrupt traditional family life. Faith City Church is spotlighted. As we continue with this episode, Warren Bird, Daniel Yang, and Adelle Banks, co-authors of Becoming a Future-Ready Church, discuss how the Gospel’s credibility de...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 29 Series: Becoming a Future-Ready Church In the first half of this episode, co-authors Warren Bird, Daniel Yang and Adelle Banks share about who they are, why they wrote the book, Becoming a Future-Ready Church, the large trends that they are writing about, and why it matters for church leaders. In the second half of the episode, the co-authors discuss how churches are shifting from focusing on attendance to creating a sense of attachment, and describe Life.Ch...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 28 Series: The Future of Multiplication What are some new and innovative ways to reach people right in your own community? Molly Soderstrom and Scott Woller join us to talk about how they are planting churches through innovative approaches that are reaching and discipling people in their own neighborhoods. Molly and Scott also share some of their biggest challenges in trying something ‘new’ and how they have addressed them in their own contexts. For more informa...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 27 Series: The Future of Multiplication How do you leverage digital spaces to reach more people for the Kingdom? Mark Lutz and Michael Uzdavines join us in this episode to discuss how church multiplication is happening in the digital space. They provide their insights into why it is important for leaders to consider digital as a part of their strategy now and in the future. Mark and Michael also share about their experiences of how to make disciples and build com...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 26 Series: The Future of Multiplication Multi-ethnic church planting is, and will be, playing a huge role in church multiplication. In this episode, we are joined by Len Tang and Mark DeYmaz who are both engaged in multi-ethnic church planting. Along with sharing their knowledge and experience about this approach, they also discuss the challenges faced by multi-ethnic church planters and potential strategies to overcome those challenges. For more about the resou...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 25 Series: The Future of Multiplication Are there spaces and places where church planting is happening that you have not even thought about? We are joined by Troy Evans and Ryan Hill, two practitioners who are engaged in planting churches in places that would be considered off the beaten path. Troy and Ryan share their experiences in their church planting contexts and why we should all consider these places as a vital part of the future of multiplication. For mo...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 24 Series: The Future of Multiplication What is multisite and what does it look like to do multisite church planting? Joining us in this episode are Jim Tomberlin and Ken Primeau. They share their insight and experience on how multisite church contributes to church multiplication. Jim and Ken answer questions like… “Why multisite?”, “How do you know when it is the right time to launch a campus?” and “How do you determine where to plant?”. For more about the reso...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 23 Series: The Future of Multiplication In this episode, Hugh Halter and Taylor McCall sit down with us to discuss what it means to do church planting as an ecosystem. Hugh and Taylor will share their personal journeys and what sparked their vision toward church planting as an ecosystem. We will walk through the reasons why church as an ecosystem will be a key part of the future of multiplication. For more information about the resources discussed in this episod...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 22 Series: The Future of Multiplication What is the data telling us? In this kickoff to our Future of Multiplication Series, we have a conversation with Warren Bird, Senior Vice President of Research and Equipping for ECFA (the Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability). Together we discuss what the data is telling us right now that will ultimately affect the future of multiplication. — Hosts: Carrie Williams – Exponential, Executive Director of Exponen...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 21 Series: Candid Conversations About Women and the Church In this conversation with Juliet, Sue and Janet dive into her challenges as a wife, mother, and church planter and the balancing act that can be in everyday life. Juliet inspires with her words and is honest about her journey. Hosts: Sue Ferguson-Women NEXT, Co-Director Janet McMahon-Women NEXT, Co-Director Guest: Juliet Lyons – Co-Founder, Co-Lead Pastor of Elan Church Category: Women NEXT — For ...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 20 Series: Candid Conversations About Women and the Church Christine Caine joins Sue and Janet sharing how she found her way to Jesus while visiting a local church. After talking with women from around the world, Christine recognized a need for women to be inspired, encouraged, and supported in their calling. As a result, she created Propel, to help women fully live into their purpose. Christine inspires and encourages with words you will not want to miss. Hosts...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 19 Series: Candid Conversations About Women and the Church In this episode, Sue and Janet have a conversation with Tara Beth Leach who finds her way, from a teenage girl preaching to the cornfields to her role as a Lead Pastor. Also featured in this episode is Aubrey Sampson who shares her journey of church planting and passion for all women to find their place in the local church. Together these women are envisioning a city wide church planting network for women...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 18 Series: Candid Conversations About Women and the Church In this episode, Faith Eury Cho suggests that it is not our job to fight for the right to be heard and be seen. It is our job to speak and to serve, being heard and seen is God’s work over our lives. Join us for this rich conversation about how we respond as women when we don’t feel like things are fair. Host: Sue Ferguson-Women NEXT, Co-Director Janet McMahon-Women NEXT, Co-Director Guest: Faith Eury...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 17 Series: Candid Conversations About Women and the Church In this episode, Sue and Janet have a candid conversation with Tammy Dunahoo. From denominational leadership to a church planting network of women, Tammy shares what she has seen in her over 40 years of leadership in the Church. Hopeful for the future, Tammy gives a vision for why men and women working together can help the church fulfill the image of God. As Dean of a seminary, Tammy gives insight into w...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 16 Series: The Next Chapter for Leading Microchurch Networks In this conversation, Brian Johnson and Rob Wegner interview Joel Repic, who helps lead the Greenhouse Network in Aliquippa, Pennsylvania. Joel shares what the Greenhouse Network is discerning in this chapter of their story, specifically around codifying language and culture without burdening a movement with too much organization. Joel shares how they’ve been able to see their network more like an ecosy...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 15 Series: The Next Chapter for Leading Microchurch Networks In this episode of the Microchurch NEXT podcast, Rob Wegner and Brian Johnson interview Bobby Frazier who is part of leading The Syndicate, a network of disciple-making leaders and microchurches in Boise, ID. We discuss the next chapter for leading Microchurch networks and the unique formation story of The Syndicate. We also discuss the next chapter of “Taking Care of Business” as they consider how to e...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 14 Series: The Next Chapter for Leading Microchurch Networks In this conversation, Brian Johnson and Rob Wegner interview Taylor Rogers and Gabrielle Leonard, leaders of the Wildfire Network. They discuss the rise of microchurches and the origin story of the Wildfire Network. They also explore the challenges faced by the network, including disconnection and lack of resources. The current chapter of the network is titled ‘Understanding the Assignment,’ which invol...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 13 Series: The Next Chapter for Leading Microchurch Networks In this episode of the Microchurch NEXT podcast, Rob Wegner and Brian Johnson interview Tomy Wilkerson, the local director of the Tampa Underground Network. We discuss the next chapter for leading Microchurch networks and the unique challenges and victories experienced by the Tampa Underground Network. The chapter they are currently in is titled ‘Rebirth,’ as they navigate the changing landscape of thei...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 12 Series: The Next Chapter for Leading Microchurch Networks Stephen and Lucia Barr share their journey of starting Cast Member Church, a microchurch movement focused on reaching employees of the Walt Disney Company. They discuss the unique challenges and opportunities of ministering within the Disney culture and the importance of adapting to the specific needs of their community. The Barrs emphasize the value of being specific, simple, small, and slow in their a...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 11 Series: AI in the Sanctuary Does AI inspire more angst or opportunities in your church? Don’t let uncertainty short-circuit important conversations. Kenny Jahng and Matt Engel talk about biblically-grounded guardrails to guide AI adoption. Hear how AI can free up staff for frontline ministry without compromising core values. Learn tips for overcoming skepticism among both church leaders and attenders.Artificial intelligence brings both promise and ethical quan...

Exponential NEXT Podcast Episode 10 Series: AI in the Sanctuary Should AI give pastors and ministry leaders pause or inspiration? In this episode, Kenny Jahng interviews Jon Hirst, the Chief Innovation Officer at SIL, an organization that helps people flourish with the languages they value most. Get an inside look at how AI is improving Bible translation around the globe. Kenny & Jon address concerns about AI in the church while providing guidance on navigating constructive conversation in your ...