Episodes

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June 4, 2021

An Update on H.R. 1 from Rep. Mondaire Jones

In this episode, Lawrence Lessig speaks to U.S. Representative Mondaire Jones. They discuss Rep. Jones' first few months as a member of Congress, the latest on H.R. 1, the need for a Third Reconstruction, and the filibuster.
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May 27, 2021

The Quest To Understand "The People" with Frank Luntz (Part Two)

On this episode, Larry Lessig speaks again to Frank Luntz, longtime GOP communications expert. The two discuss the meaning of truth in politics, how to combat lies about the 2020 election, whether Luntz supports H.R. 1, and if we should be concerned about the rise of minoritarianism. This conversation builds off a February 5th, 2021 interview, available here: https://equalcitizens.us/the-quest-to-understand-the-people/
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April 29, 2021

Exploring The Informational Ecosystem with Jimmy Wales

On this episode of Another Way, Lawrence Lessig speaks with Jimmy Wales, founder of Wikipedia and wt.social. Lessig and Wales discuss the origins of Wikipedia, its architecture, and its ad-free commitment to neutrality. They also attempt to unpack the growing polarization in the media, digital algorithms and the addictiveness of technology, and how to reform the informational ecosystem to ensure better deliberation.
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April 22, 2021

The Fight For Voting Rights Reform

For this week's episode, we are re-broadcasting the audio of an Equal Citizens event held on March 31st, 2021 entitled, "The Fight For Voting Rights Reform: The Path To H.R. 1 and H.R. 4". The event featured Lawrence Lessig moderating a conversation between Duke Law Professor Guy-Uriel Charles and Emory Professor Carol Anderson. The three scholars discuss voter suppression, the bills that Congress is currently considering to tackle it — the For The People Act and the Voting Rights Advancement Ac...
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April 15, 2021

Breaking The Two-Party Doom Loop with Lee Drutman

Lawrence Lessig speaks with Lee Drutman, senior fellow in the Political Reform program at New America. The two discuss the history of the U.S. political party system, polarization and partisanship, reform, and Lee's recent book, "Breaking the Two-Party Doom Loop: The Case for Multiparty Democracy in America".
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April 8, 2021

Swamp Stories With Weston Wamp

On this episode of Another Way, Lawrence Lessig speaks to Weston Wamp, senior political strategist for Issue One and host of the podcast, Swamp Stories. The two discuss congressional fundraising, leadership PACs, public campaign financing, the January 6th insurrection. and the Republican Party's relationship to democracy reform.
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March 25, 2021

Building Democracy Back Better with Sam Wang

On this episode of Another Way, Lawrence Lessig speaks to Professor Sam Wang, founder of the Princeton Gerrymandering Project. The two discuss the inequalities produced by gerrymandering and the Electoral College, the rise of minoritarianism in the US, and what Congress and the states can do to fight back.
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March 18, 2021

“George”: A conversation with the other side

This episode of Another Way is unique: Lessig speaks to a Trump-supporting friend, whose name has been changed and voice altered to allow the friend to speak without the burdens his views might create in his world. Lessig and “George” discuss Trump, the January 6th insurrection and partisanship. Is common ground possible?
87
March 15, 2021

Unpacking America with Rob Sand

On this episode, Lawrence Lessig speaks with Rob Sand, who has served as Iowa's State Auditor since 2019. The two discuss Sand's history of investigating white collar crime, the feeling of loss in small town America, and polarization.
86
March 3, 2021

Reform and The Future of the Republican Party

In this episode, Lawrence Lessig speaks with Bill Kristol, longtime conservative pundit, about democracy reform and the future of the Republican Party.
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Feb. 24, 2021

Representative Khanna on H.R. 1 and the Fight for Reform

In this episode, Lawrence Lessig speaks with Representative Ro Khanna, who serves California's 17th Congressional district. Rep. Khanna gives listeners a legislative update on the For The People Act, and he speaks candidly about the threat of a Senate filibuster, the need for public campaign financing, the early days of the Biden administration, and the insurrection attempt on January 6th.
84
Feb. 11, 2021

Congress Can Act Now To Protect The Right To Vote

In this episode, Lawrence Lessig is joined by Guy-Uriel Charles, the Edward and Ellen Schwarzman Professor of Law at Duke Law School. Lessig and Charles explore the differences between H.R. 1 (the For The People Act) and H.R. 4 (the Voting Rights Advancement Act), and argue Congress should pass H.R. 1 first. Note: Equal Citizens is highly supportive of both H.R. 1 and H.R. 4.
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Feb. 5, 2021

The Quest To Understand "The People"

On this episode, Lawrence Lessig speaks with Frank Luntz, longtime GOP communications expert. The two discuss the January 6th riots, Trump, our broken system of government, and the news media that divides us.
82
Jan. 28, 2021

The Architect of The For The People Act (H.R. 1)

In this episode, Larry Lessig speaks with Representative John Sarbanes, the architect of the For The People Act (H.R. 1). The two dive into the provisions of this critically important piece of legislation to fix our democracy, what to expect in the months ahead, and why they are optimistic about its success.
81
Jan. 19, 2021

Drawing Inspiration From Alaska

In this episode, Adam Eichen speaks with Scott Kendall and Jason Grenn of Alaskans for Better Elections, the campaign that successfully brought ranked choice voting and top four nonpartisan primaries to Alaska through a ballot initiative. They discuss the importance of the reforms, how they organized during COVID-19, and why the campaign appealed to voters across the political spectrum.
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Jan. 9, 2021

Emergency Episode: Insurrection, Georgia, and the Future of US Democracy

On this emergency episode, Adam Eichen speaks with Equal Citizens Founder Lawrence Lessig about the disturbing insurrection attempt at the US Capitol this week. The two attempt to unpack how we got to this bleak moment in history and who is to blame (Hint: Donald Trump, Josh Hawley, and Ted Cruz). They also explain the significance of the Georgia senate runoff elections and what it means for reform.
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Dec. 30, 2020

The Second Annual Democracy Awards

On this episode, Jason Harrow and Adam Eichen present the awards for best and worst actors in our democracy. Some award winners will surprise you — and others not so much....
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Dec. 30, 2020

What Do We Make of 2020?

On this episode, Jason Harrow and Adam Eichen discuss their takeaways from 2020. They reflect on how well our democracy withstood COVID-19 and unprecedented attacks by Donald Trump. The two also highlight the importance of the upcoming runoff senate elections in Georgia.
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Nov. 20, 2020

Another Way To Elect A President: Election Follow-Up

In this final episode of "Another Way to Elect the President," we consider whether Trump's lawyers could successfully contest the election results. We pick apart their legal cases and the facts and fictions behind them to explain their underlying strategy.
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Nov. 3, 2020

Live Election (and Beyond!) Special

In our election day special, we bring you a recording of our live conversation from October 30. We talked about the worries of this election day, but we also looked beyond the election to discuss the policy options on the table if Biden wins. While we await the results, we end our election day blitz of episodes on an optimistic note!
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Nov. 2, 2020

Another Way To Elect A President: Jumping The Shark

In this last pre-election episode in our mini-series, we bat around a few outrageous scenarios. Will votes be tossed out en masse? Can the House just refuse to count any votes at all? Find out!
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Nov. 2, 2020

Another Way To Elect A President: The VP's Role (Part 9)

In this last regular episode of our mini-series about the road to selecting a president, we are joined by David Fontana of GW Law to talk about the Vice President. What role does the Constitution give the Vice President in counting electoral votes? And can this be manipulated?
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Nov. 1, 2020

Another Way To Elect A President: Contingent Elections (Part 8)

In today's episode of the mini-series, we discuss the House contingent election. It hasn't happened since 1824, but could it this year? What could trigger it? And what would happen if the House has to choose the President?
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Oct. 31, 2020

Another Way To Elect A President: The Death of a Candidate (Part 7)

In this episode in our mini-series, we answer the question: what happens if a candidate dies right before or after the popular vote? The answer: it could get complicated.