Episodes

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Feb. 24, 2020

95 - 3 Shapes of Pain & What Divine Love Has to Say (feat. Seth Haines)

We’re joined this week by Seth Haines, author of the new book The Book of Waking Up: Experiencing the Divine Love That Reorders a Life. He tells us his story of realizing he had a drinking problem and finding sobriety that inspired his first book, Coming Clean. Then we talk about his new book, 3 common shapes of pain, how divine love responds, our unhealthy addictions/attachments, and more. In the intro, Robert & Holly celebrate Holly getting tenure.
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Feb. 17, 2020

94 - Resurrecting Hope & Ordinary Losses (feat. Stephanie Lobdell)

Today, we’re joined by Stephanie Lobdell to talk about ordinary losses and what resurrection has to tell us about those things. We talk about being a woman in ministry, Stephanie’s mental health diagnoses, facing the death of your expected future, how her loved ones have learned to be supportive and more.
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Feb. 10, 2020

93 - Using the Enneagram & Neuroscience for Practical Growth (feat. Dr. Jerome Lubbe)

We loved last week’s episode with Dr. Jerome Lubbe so much we invited him back right away! Jerome stops back by to talk about ways to use the Enneagram for practical growth, ideas for how to care for ourselves better, moving from ‘I am a number’ to focusing on our innate human capacity, why some of our numbers might change, and more.
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Feb. 3, 2020

92 - Neuroscience, Faith, Identity, the Enneagram, & Self-Care (feat. Dr. Jerome Lubbe)

Have you ever wondered how neuroscience intersects with faith, or how they both intersect with the Enneagram? We talk with Dr. Jerome Lubbe about that, the neurotheology of self-care, identity formation, and much more. In the intro, Robert & Holly talk about what’s currently giving them life.
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Jan. 27, 2020

91 - Spiritual Bypassing (feat. Dr. Jesse Fox)

What is Spiritual Bypassing? We talk with Dr. Jesse Fox about his work in this area, what it looks like to use spirituality as a resource (or as a method of avoidance), offering unhelpful platitudes vs. helpful responses, and more. In the intro, Robert & Holly talk about a recent Wall Street Journal article that discussed pastors and their mental health.
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Jan. 13, 2020

90 - Small Beginnings, Other People's Stories, & Being Made to Make (feat. Morgan Harper Nichols)

This week, artist and internet phenomenon Morgan Harper Nichols stops by the show. We talk about small beginnings, finding inspiration in the day-to-day, hearing other people’s stories, creativity, and how her artwork reflects faith & mental health. Morgan also shares with us some brand-new poems from her new book All Along You Were Blooming: Thoughts for Boundless Living. In the intro, Robert & Holly talk about freedom and structure in daily rhythms.
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Jan. 6, 2020

89 - Trying Softer, Self Compassion, & Moving from Survival to Joy (feat. Aundi Kolber)

It’s 2020! Robert & Holly talk about New Year’s intentions in the intro, and then chat with trauma therapist Aundi Kolber about her new book Try Softer: A Fresh Approach to Move Us out of Anxiety, Stress, and Survival Mode--and into a Life of Connection and Joy. Aundi talks about attachment, being compassionate with ourselves, expanding our window of tolerance, white-knuckling through life, and listening to our bodies.
Dec. 23, 2019

Happy Holidays 2019!

Grab a mug of hot cocoa and snuggle up with a blanket, it’s time for a fireside chat with Robert & Holly! Your hosts get together to share listener-submitted traditions, talk about ways we’re reflecting on 2019, and what’s ahead in 2020. (Not included: mug, hot cocoa, blanket, fire)
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Dec. 16, 2019

88 - Practical Tools for Mental Health Ministry (feat. Joe Padilla)

Joe Padilla (co-founder of Mental Health Grace Alliance) joins us to talk about the practicalities of ministering to people’s mental health within a faith community. We get asked a ton about resources for small groups, trainings, etc. to help equip people to do this kind of work, and Joe breaks down what Grace Alliance offers and their thinking behind it. We also hear some of Joe’s story and why the work is so personal to him. In the intro, Robert & Holly talk about holiday traditions.
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Dec. 9, 2019

87 - Getting the Rest You Actually Need (feat. Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith)

Have you ever wondered why you’re still tired if you’re getting enough sleep? How do we know if we’re actually even resting? Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith stops by the show to tell us about 7 different types of rest and how to make sure we’re actually restoring what we’re pouring out.
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Nov. 25, 2019

86 - Grieving During the Holidays (feat. Lanta Carroll)

It’s the holiday season, which can be both joyful & hard. We’re joined by Lanta Carroll, a counselor & pastor, to talk about grieving during this season. We talk about why it’s so complicated, some ideas for your own grief, and thoughts on how to support others personally or within a faith community.
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Nov. 18, 2019

85 - Why & How Should Therapists Talk About Faith? (feat. Dr. Cassandra Vieten)

Should mental health professionals ask about clients’s spiritual & religious beliefs? Today’s guest says ‘yes.’ Dr. Cassandra Vieten stops by to talk about her new book Spiritual and Religious Competencies in Clinical Practice: Guidelines for Psychotherapists and Mental Health Professionals as well as touch on subjects like trends towards ‘spiritual but not religious’, recommendations for faith leaders, and more. In the intro, Robert & Holly talk about their recent travels and the tooth fairy!
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Nov. 4, 2019

84 - Faith, Media, & Living Our Theology (feat. Dr. Angela Gorrell)

What role do things like social media, streaming content, and other new media play in shaping our faith lives? How do we have productive conversations about it? Is this even worth considering? Rev. Dr. Angela Gorrell (author of Always On: Practicing Faith in a New Media Landscape) stops by to talk about these questions and more. Angela’s uniquely qualified to talk about the issues, having been a pastor, taught college courses on social media, & more.One note: if the intro sounds like it’s a week...
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Oct. 21, 2019

83 - How Can Faith Communities & Human Service Providers Collaborate? (feat. Dave Eckert)

This week we talk with Dave Eckert, a pastor, social worker, and director of Intersect (an initiative to train, consult and collaborate with human services providers and faith communities). Dave describes 6 key assets to this kind of work, going beyond faith leaders & mental health professionals to describe how we can all play a role.
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Oct. 14, 2019

82 - Hospitality, Loneliness, & Inviting People In (feat. Leslie Verner)

Are we living in especially lonely times? What does ‘hospitality’ mean? How could extending invitations change the way we live? We’re joined by Leslie Verner, author of Invited: The Power of Hospitality in an Age of Loneliness to talk about all of this and more. In the intro, Robert and Holly talk about their own experiences with hospitality, their favorite ice cream flavors, and why hospitality has a special place in Robert’s family.
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Oct. 7, 2019

81 - Closing the Chasm Between Spirituality & Treatment (feat. Dr. David Rosmarin)

This week, we’re joined by Dr. David Rosmarin to talk about integrating spiritual beliefs into treatment, navigating the distrust between faith & mental health, and more.
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Sept. 30, 2019

80 - Music & Ministry (feat. Rivers & Robots)

Have you ever wondered about our intro/outro music? Great news: we got together with the guys behind Rivers & Robots to learn more about their music, their ministry, and how they take care of their mental health while keeping so busy. In the intro, Robert & Holly talk about writing and the challenges of getting stuck.
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Sept. 23, 2019

79 - Hunger, Mental Health, & Working Together for Justice (feat. Jeremy Everett)

How does hunger impact mental health? How widespread is food insecurity across the United States? We’re joined by Jeremy Everett, founder of the Texas Hunger Initiative and author of the new book, I Was Hungry: Cultivating Common Ground to End an American Crisis. We obviously talk about hunger, but Jeremy also touches on why it’s so important to work together if we’re going to move past ‘charity’ and into working for justice.
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Sept. 16, 2019

78 - Reimagining Missions from the Inside Out (feat. Ryan Kuja)

In the intro, Robert & Holly talk about the recent suicide deaths of pastor Jarrid Wilson & Gregory Eells. In the interview, we’re joined by Ryan Kuja to talk about the ways we should prepare better for missions. Ryan talks about thinking critically regarding our cultural lenses, our psychological needs, and our own stories. Ryan is the author of From the Inside Out: Reimagining Mission, Recreating the World.
Sept. 9, 2019

Welcome to Season 4.

We’re back! (not the dinosaur movie, although that’s one of Robert’s favorites).We kick off Season 4 of CXMH with the two of us (Robert & Holly) talking about our time off, what we learned about rest, and looking ahead at what’s to come.
June 24, 2019

Summer 2019!

In this episode with just Robert & Holly, they (we?) talk about why we take the summer off, what our hopes are for the time away, and what books we’re planning on reading during the next few months.Things we mention in this episode/other resources:- The Stressed Years of Their Lives: Helping Your Kid Survive and Thrive During Their College Years by Dr. B. Janet Hibbs & Dr. Anthony Rostain- Invited: The Power of Hospitality in an Age of Loneliness by Leslie Verner- Of Mess and Moxie: Wrangling De...
May 28, 2019

Recast - Self-Image, Parenting, & Learning to Love Ourselves As We Are (feat. Hillary McBride)

In a new intro, Robert admits that he has no idea how to rest and Holly tells us all about her recent travels. Then, we recast our 2018 interview with Hillary McBride about self-image, passing narratives on to our children, and learning to love ourselves as we are.
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May 20, 2019

77 - Mental Health in Latinx Culture (feat. Yesenia Reta)

We’re joined by Yesenia Reta, LCSW, who practices as a Christian therapist in Florida. She talks about how she views faith & mental health working together, how growing up in a Mexican family shaped her view of mental health, and some barriers she sees her Hispanic clients facing when trying to get treatment.
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May 13, 2019

76 - The Narratives We Believe (& Why They Matter)

This week, Robert & Holly talk about one of Robert’s favorite topics: narratives! What they are, why it matters what we believe about ourselves and the world around us, how to notice them, and more.