Episodes

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Nov. 29, 2023

Abuse, God, and Self-Discovery with Ryan Anderson, PhD., LMFT, and Author of 'The Choice to Leave Abuse'

How does abuse impact an individual's spirituality and relationship with God? And how critical is it for a spiritual leader to be non-judgmental, empathetic, and compassionate when someone comes into their office talking about abuse? These critical questions are at the heart of today’s episode. Tony Overbay, LMFT, engages in an insightful conversation with Ryan Anderson, PhD, LMFT, and author of "The Choice to Leave Abuse." This episode explores the complex issue of abuse, especially within the ...
97
Nov. 21, 2023

Too Smart for Their Own Good: Why Narcissists Love Conspiracy Theories

Ever wondered why some highly educated people fall for outlandish conspiracy theories? Dive into the latest episode of 'Waking Narcissism' with host Tony Overbay, a licensed marriage and family therapist, as he tackles this intriguing question. This thought-provoking episode explores the unexpected relationship between education, narcissism, and susceptibility to conspiracy theories, based on insights from Mark Travers, PhD's article 'Educated Narcissists Fall for Conspiracy Theories.'https://ww...
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Nov. 15, 2023

Why Do I Keep Losing My Crap, My Mind, and My Memory? Understanding Amygdala Hijack in Relationships

Have you ever felt overwhelmed by intense emotions in a relationship, struggling to understand why your reactions seem out of your control? Especially if you, and most people in your life, view you as kind and caring rather than reactive and angry. Chances are that you’ve experienced the “amygdala hijack,” a survival technique that often seems to come out of nowhere but can be especially harmful in relationships with narcissistic or emotionally immature people, as they often are the ones causing...
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Nov. 8, 2023

Death by a Thousand Cuts - Episode 6: The Camouflaged Wounds - Seeing the Unseen

In installment 6 of the "Death by a Thousand Cuts" series - "The Camouflaged Wounds - Seeing the Unseen," Tony Overbay, LMFT, addresses the complex issue of covert abuse in relationships, often described metaphorically as 'Death by a Thousand Cuts'. Tony explores how small, often overlooked actions can accumulate significant emotional distress. The episode challenges listeners to recognize the subtle signs of an unhealthy relationship, where one's sense of self is slowly chipped away by a partne...
94
Nov. 1, 2023

The Power of Epigenetics: “Creating the Vitality You Crave” w/Lori Finlay

Tony talks with Lori Finlay, a nurse practitioner, board-certified health coach, and health expert with a unique background in cardiology and wellness medicine. Lori opens up about her personal struggles with chronic fatigue and premature menopause and how she took control of her health journey through the study of epigenetics. As she weaves her narrative, she touches on her frustrations with inadequate medical treatment and the critical importance of functional medicine. Utilizing the analogy o...
93
Oct. 25, 2023

When 'Your Reality' Becomes a Weapon: Unpacking One of the Narcissist's Favorite Phrases

Have you ever wondered how your perception shapes your relationships and what happens when it clashes with someone else's? In Episode 93 of the Waking Up to Narcissism podcast, host Tony Overbay cracks open this intricate topic by differentiating between 'perception' and 'perspective.' Not just a play on words, these two concepts wield significant power over your emotional and relational health. Tony unpacks how recognizing this distinction can be a game-changer, especially when dealing with emo...
92
Oct. 16, 2023

The Confabulation Conundrum: When Reality Gets Distorted

Have you ever felt like someone is rewriting history, leaving you questioning your memory and sanity? What if there was a psychological explanation for this behavior? In today's episode, Tony revisits the concept of confabulation. Confabulation is a psychological mechanism where people create false memories or stories, often to fill gaps in their history or to avoid facing uncomfortable truths. We'll examine how this behavior is common among emotionally immature individuals and those with narcis...
91
Oct. 6, 2023

BONUS - Alone...But Not Really - Embracing Solitude from The Mind, The Mirror and Me Podcast w/Mackie Overbay

Tony welcomes his daughter Mackie, host of "The Mind, the Mirror and Me" podcast, via this special bonus episode to talk about the important role that solitude can play in raising one's emotional baseline. Follow Mackie at https://www.instagram.com/beautybymackie/ or Tony's new "Waking Up to Narcissism" Instagram account at https://www.instagram.com/wutnpod/ or his regular account at https://www.instagram.com/tonyoverbay_lmft/ and you can subscribe to the podcast on Spotify https://open.spotify....
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Oct. 3, 2023

Never Settle: Embracing Respect and Navigating Relationships with Emotionally Immature Partners

In today’s episode of "Waking Up to Narcissism," Tony Overbay, LMFT, examines relationships affected by narcissism and emotional immaturity. A listener shares a story about their partner's over-the-top reactions, including a helicopter rescue on a hike. The conversation then shifts to characteristics of healthy relationships and the pitfalls of dealing with emotionally immature partners. Another listener's letter prompts a promise to dive deeper into the challenges faced when partnered with a na...
89
Sept. 25, 2023

Acceptance vs. Forgiveness: Which Harmonizes with Your Healing? Navigating Narcissism and Emotional Immaturity

Forgive and forget. “Can’t we just let the past be in the past and move forward?” To someone who has been in a relationship with a narcissist or an extremely emotionally immature person, these concepts can have a negative impact, adding additional layers of guilt and shame to a situation already heavy with “what’s wrong with me?” messages. Today, Tony covers the contrasting concepts of 'acceptance' and 'forgiveness.' Explore why the nuanced understanding of acceptance, as outlined in Acceptance ...
88
Sept. 14, 2023

So a Narcissist, Emotionally Immature Person, and Nice Guy Walk Into a Bar - How to Know What You Don’t Know

Tony explores the Dunning-Kruger effect—a cognitive bias where individuals misjudge their abilities—and its interplay with emotional immaturity and narcissism. Starting with a humorous take on a narcissist, an emotionally immature person, and a "nice guy" in a bar, Tony delves into the complex landscape of self-awareness and interpersonal dynamics. Through the lens of real-life workplace examples and the evocative "Man in a Hole" metaphor, the episode underscores the importance of recognizing pe...
87
Sept. 6, 2023

Echoes of Enmeshment: Differentiation in a World of Narcissism and Emotional Immaturity

In this episode, we delve deep into understanding what it truly means to be differentiated, especially when navigating relationships with emotionally immature or narcissistic individuals. Through the lens of Amelia's personal journey with Mark, we unravel the subtle nuances of emotional manipulation and the transformative power of self-awareness. Drawing parallels with the differentiation concept, we explore how emotions and rationale are the yin and yang of our psyche, each holding its unique p...
86
Aug. 30, 2023

Gaslight, Golden Child, and Growth: Understanding Narcissism vs Emotional Immaturity

In this bonus episode of the "Waking Up to Narcissism Premium Q&A Podcast," host Tony Overbay, LMFT (host of the award-winning Virtual Couch podcast), dives deep into the core differences between narcissism and emotional immaturity. Sparked by a heartfelt letter from a listener, Tony breaks down the rare instances of narcissistic personality disorder (NPD) and contrasts it with the more common issue of emotional immaturity. He elaborates on the diagnostic criteria for NPD, the significance of wh...
85
Aug. 23, 2023

Boundaries and Bucket Lists: Reclaiming Emotional Power

In episode 85 of "Waking Up to Narcissism," host Tony Overbay, LMFT, dives deep into the complexities of relationships entangled with narcissistic traits. The journey begins with a relatable tale about a personalized gift basket, highlighting the significance of emotional connection, safety, and understanding in partnerships. Tony frames a healthy interaction between his wife and him through his Four Pillars of a Connected Conversation, emphasizing the essence of curiosity, good intentions, and ...
84
Aug. 14, 2023

The Power of Temporary Connections: Understanding Bridge Partners

Tony answers a listener's question about the uncertainty of coming out of a controlling relationship and suddenly recognizing you can be anything you want to be and not knowing where to begin. He then takes on the concept of a “Bridge Partner.” Finding your way through life's relational complexities often introduces us to pivotal figures who can be considered "bridge partners." These unique individuals act as connectors, helping us transition from one emotional or relational state to another. Th...
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Aug. 7, 2023

Death By a Thousand Cuts 5 - The Musical

In the enlightening fifth installment of "Death by a Thousand Cuts," we delve deep into the nuanced world of relationships marred by emotional immaturity and narcissistic behaviors. A dedicated listener, Emma bravely shares her journey of being trapped in a cycle of constantly appeasing her partner, losing touch with her own needs, and struggling with self-worth. Alongside her story, the episode unpacks numerous anecdotes from our listeners. These tales underscore the often-overlooked emotional ...
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July 25, 2023

I Want to “Lean In” Into Healing, Growth, Discomfort…But Somebody Needs To Convince My Body!

In the latest episode of "Waking Up to Narcissism," Tony Overbay, LMFT, delves into the complexities of building emotional resilience, a key to overcoming past trauma and wounds that may go back to childhood. Contrary to popular belief, changing habits takes time but requires consistent and intentional effort over an extended period. The conversation turns to the importance of emotional intelligence and understanding its role in how we react or respond in situations, especially in relationships ...
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July 18, 2023

Unseen Chains: Navigating the Subtleties of Coercive Control

Today we delve into the challenging topic of coercive control and how it shows up in emotionally immature and narcissistic relationships. We explore the fundamental contradiction of control and love, showing how genuine affection and dominance cannot coexist harmoniously. Coercive control is a powerful, often invisible manipulation tool employed by abusers to entrap their victims. This episode also features a mix of light-hearted elements, including a thought-provoking haiku, riddle, knock-knock...
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July 7, 2023

Control or Love: Breaking Free from Emotional Manipulation in Relationships

In today's episode, we delve into the captivating journey of Alex, a compassionate individual entangled in an emotionally manipulative relationship. This narrative vividly depicts his path from self-neglect and pleasing others to asserting his needs and reclaiming his identity. It demonstrates the brave decision to break free from toxicity and embark on a path to self-care, emphasizing the value of boundaries, self-love, and therapy. Listeners will learn about the implications of inconsistent pa...
79
June 30, 2023

Understanding Emotionally Immature and Narcissistic Individuals in Therapy: Insights for Individuals and Therapists

In today’s episode, Tony delves into the complexities of working with emotionally immature or narcissistic individuals in couples therapy. He explains the challenges therapists face in discerning genuine commitment to change from manipulative behavior, as these individuals can initially come across as charming and convincing. Tony emphasizes the importance of recognizing patterns such as lying, minimizing behavior, love bombing, and maintaining control. He acknowledges that therapists may encoun...
78
June 20, 2023

Surviving the RIDE: Breaking the Cycle of Intermittent Reinforcement in Narcissistic Relationships

In today’s episode, Tony delves deep into the hidden mechanisms that fuel toxic relationships. He uncovers the secret life of intermittent reinforcement, how it creates the “trauma bond,” and its powerful influence in addictive and toxic relationships, especially those involving narcissists or emotionally immature individuals. Pulling from the roots of B.F. Skinner's theories on operant conditioning and behaviorism, we'll journey through the ways in which behavior can be conditioned, manipulated...
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June 11, 2023

Healing the Scars: Recovering from Narcissistic Abuse and Reclaiming Self-Worth

Tony delves into the profound impact of trauma and emotional neglect on relationship patterns. He shares the story of John, who endured a chaotic and emotionally neglectful upbringing with narcissistic parents, only to later marry Sarah, who exhibited similar traits. John's yearning for validation and acceptance kept him trapped in an emotionally abusive relationship, leading to anxiety, depression, and a sense of hopelessness. Breaking free from a narcissistic trauma bond is a challenging journ...
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June 5, 2023

Autism or Narcissism? Unpacking Neurodivergent Relationships with Jodi Carlton, MEd

In today's episode, we dive deep into the complexities of neurodiversity and narcissism in relationships. Our guest, Jodi Carlton, brings a wealth of expertise, drawing from over two decades of experience as a therapist, educator, and coach, with a special focus on neurodiversity. She has an intimate understanding of neurodivergent individuals. She has worked extensively with individuals and couples across 13 countries, dealing with a spectrum of conditions, including depression, anxiety, bipola...
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May 29, 2023

Sanity over Spouse: Crafting Calm Amidst Chaos

Today we dig more into the age-old question, "Should I stay or should I go?" And if I'm staying, what are some strategies to help maintain one's sanity? Tony unpacks a poignant email from a listener, shedding light on the subtle nuances of gaslighting - a common manipulation tactic used by narcissists. Through this exploration, you'll learn to identify these underhanded strategies, empowering you to take a step back and view the situation through an informed lens. Tony also shares a captivating ...