A Podcast with Charlie Swenson - To Hell and Back

This podcast series, “To Hell and Back,” is focused on the nature of hellish experiences in life, how people get into them, and to present and discuss tools for coping with hell and getting out. The various podcasts will move back and forth between differ

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Synchronized Swimming – Episode 126

Posted April 9, 202600:28:04

In this podcast Charlie recalls a piece of biological research he did 57 years ago, at college. He pursued the question: how is it that the 2 billion...

Dialectics, Democracy, Tyranny, Trump, and the American Way – Episode 125

Posted January 26, 202600:48:04

In the wake of the recent killing by federal agents of two adults in Minneapolis, this podcast represents an attempt to deepen my perspective on these...

Does DBT Work as a Model for Understanding and Addressing a Fascist Takeover? – Episode 124

Posted September 23, 202500:47:03

DBT’s emphasis on behavioral specificity, validation, and dialectical thinking, while effective for therapy, must be sufficiently grounded in deep...

Bystanders Get Off the Sidelines Please – Episode 123

Posted August 15, 202500:45:34

In this podcast Charlie reviews the six categories of people in the United States insofar as they are actors in the drama between democracy and authoritarianism,...

Nuggets of Gold in Piles of Sand – Episode 122

Posted August 12, 202500:35:49

In this podcast, Charlie reflects on a recent consultation as a window into the way in which memory is tethered to certain moments, as an example of...