Episodes

Nov. 9, 2023

Maintenance Analytics with Ray Hespen – Part 1

On The Property Management Show, we recently had a conversation with Ray Hespen, the CEO and co-founder of Property Meld. We always find ourselves talking to him a lot – and about a lot. This episode is no different. We covered so much ground that we split the interview into two episodes. Here’s part one – where we talk about what maintenance analytics is, why it’s important, and how it can help a property management business hold onto business and grow. Property Meld and Maintenance Analytic...
Oct. 26, 2023

Investing and Managing in the Urban Real Estate Market with Byron Thompson

Byron Thompson from Monument Real Estate Management is joining The Property Management Show to talk about a subject we’ve never addressed on this podcast: urban real estate markets. Byron has been a listener for a long time, and we’re happy to have him in the guest seat today to talk about the unique challenges and opportunities for both investors and property managers who work in urban markets such as Cleveland, where his company is based. Introducing Byron and Monument Byron owns and operate...
Oct. 12, 2023

Current State of the Short Term Rental Market with Heather Nicely – Part 2

During Part One of our conversation with Heather Nicely, we talked about the pros and cons of adding short term rental (STR) properties to an established portfolio of long term rentals. Today, we’re getting more into the state of the STR market and how you can set yourself apart and serve owners better. Market Saturation and the Rush to Short Term Rentals There has been a rush towards short term rentals because investors wanted to capitalize on the rise in travel. Then, a single tweet set off ...
Sept. 28, 2023

Pros and Cons of Adding Short Term Rentals to a Long Term Rental Management Business with Heather Nicely – Part 1

Heather Nicely is a Realtor, broker, and loan officer, and also the president of the Arizona chapter of NARPM. She’s been on all sides of property management and today, she’s joining us to talk about short term rentals and how managing those properties are different from managing long term rentals. Heather’s Journey to the Short Term Rental (STR) Space While other little girls were fantasizing about growing up into princesses, Heather was fascinated with real estate. By the time she was 12 year...
Aug. 15, 2023

State of the Podcast Address by Marie and Brittany

Hello to all our loyal listeners and property management enthusiasts! You must be wondering about what’s going on with The Property Management Show podcast. We’re here to give you the scoop! We’ve been busy with pre-production for our upcoming season. After a brief hiatus, Brittany is back with a bang! Yes, that’s right! Our beloved co-host will be making her return next season, much to the delight of our listeners (and Marie 😉). We have already recorded interviews on the following topics: Ma...
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May 11, 2023

Building a Rock Solid Property Management Company: Advice from Business Consultant Deb Newell

Our guest on The Property Management Show today is the legendary Deb Newell, of Real Time Consulting Services. She has a lot of experience as a consultant and a property management business owner, so we wanted to get her thoughts on the state of the industry and what property management companies need to do to prepare themselves for the future. Deb Newell: A Background Deb began renovating homes as a hobby in 1998. That grew into buying rental properties, which was a matter of wanting to get out...
May 4, 2023

What Matthew Kaddatz Learned Running a Property Management Company Through the ’08 Recession

The Property Management Show is pleased to welcome Matthew Kaddatz onto the podcast. He’s the senior director of product at Appfolio, and before joining Appfolio, he co-founded a property management company in 2006, right before a major recession. We’ve been talking to property management experts about how they moved through that recession and what they’re planning for the potential new recession that is coming for the real estate industry. We asked Matt to tell us about his property managemen...
April 27, 2023

2024 Property Management Outlook with Jeff Hacker

We’re talking to one of our long-time clients, Jeff Hacker, who runs Bayside Management and Leasing. He was on The Property Management Show three years ago, and we love talking with him because he’s been in the property management industry for 20 years. He was with Bayside during the great financial meltdown between 2007 and 2009, and we asked him to come back and share with us some of what he learned as that crisis unfolded. We also wanted to know what he’s doing to prepare for another potentia...
April 20, 2023

Entrepreneurial Lessons from the ’08 Recession with MaryAnn Hoffman & Andrew Dougill

We’re welcoming MaryAnn Hoffman and Andrew Dougill back on The Property Management Show. They are the couple behind Hoffman Realty in Tampa, Florida, and they were with us on a previous podcast, where they discussed how they got started in the property management industry as a husband and wife team. One of the things they said during that discussion was how scary it was to have all their eggs in one basket during the Great Recession of 2007 to 2009. We asked them to come back and talk about how ...
April 13, 2023

How to Market a Property Management Company with Marie Tepman

Kathleen Richards recently interviewed Marie for her PM Tribe coaching group. They talked about the importance of marketing for property management companies, when it makes sense to seek professional help, and the current trends in the property management industry. There was lots of good information during that interview, and we want to share it with property managers today on The Property Management Show. Kathleen Richards and Fourandhalf Kathleen began working with Fourandhalf in the early day...
April 6, 2023

3 Blue Ocean Strategies for Growing Property Management Companies with Scott Brady

Scott Brady from Progressive Property Management, a successful property management company in southern California, is back on The Property Management Show, talking to us about an updated Blue Ocean Strategy that a property management company can use for the current market. You might remember that he joined us in 2015, when he introduced the Blue Ocean Strategy and how it pertains to property managers. It’s the theory that property managers don’t actually have to compete with each other; their ow...
March 30, 2023

Weathering the Storm: How to Recession-Proof A Property Management Business w/ Kim & Scott Hampton

The current economic climate is a double-edged sword for property management companies. On the one hand, we are seeing increasingly high demand for rental property as people look to downsize and move away from homeownership. On the other hand, with reduced job security and income levels, tenants may find themselves unable to pay rent or in search of lower cost housing options. This means that property managers must be prepared to weather any economic storms on the horizon – but how? Kim Meredith...
March 23, 2023

How to Set a Property Management Marketing Budget According to Greg Crabtree, CPA

Greg Crabtree, CPA is back on The Property Management Show to talk about marketing spends and the return on investment (ROI) that property management companies should expect to see on marketing budgets. If you’re not already familiar with Greg, he’s an accomplished entrepreneur, financial expert, and the author of Simple Numbers, a book that every business owner should have read by now. When we first had Greg on The Property Management Show, it was at the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic, and ...
March 9, 2023

Creating Customers for Life

Dave Gorham is back as our guest on The Property Management Show. He is a co-founder of Realty Solutions in New Jersey, and we’re diving into his philosophy around customers for life, and how it’s important to align a business with the idea that you’re going to serve your customers in some capacity for as long as you can. Dialing into Customer Lifetime as a Business Model Customer lifetime is an important part of Dave’s business. And, it was never intentional. This focus grew out of the discus...
Feb. 23, 2023

Lifetime Value vs. Transactional Value

On The Property Management Show today, we’re speaking with Andrew Smallwood, who is the Chief Customer Officer (CCO) at Second Nature and the host of the Triple Win podcast. We’re diving into the difference between lifetime value and transactional value and how understanding that difference will help you have a successful property management business. Building Customer Lifetime Value versus Transactional Value The conventional thinking around winning is that you have to get the biggest part of...
Feb. 8, 2023

The Power of Purpose-Driven Property Management

Andrea Hardaway from First Property Management is blazing a path of success as she has published her book, Property Management Freedom, and recently gave an inspiring talk on the topic of market consolidation at PM Grow Summit 2022. Despite hefty acquisition offers by larger management companies coming in their direction, Andrea and company remain determined to move forward with independent operations – something we wanted to explore more about! Let’s take a deeper look at what makes them so suc...
Jan. 26, 2023

Retention in the Face of Acquisition – Part 2

We’re back on The Property Management Show with Kathleen Richards. In Part I, she shared her story about buying and selling a property management business, and how she introduced herself to her new employees and clients. We ended the chat talking about toxic owners and how to deal with them while acquiring a business. Property Management and Customer Service Giving bad owners permission to leave is helpful when you acquire a new business. And, if you don’t call people out on their bad behavior...
Jan. 12, 2023

Retention in the Face of Acquisition – Part 1

The prospect of acquiring a property management business is very exciting. The hard part comes when the deal is done. How can you handle the baggage that comes with a book of business? How do you protect yourself from the potential loss of owners and employees? Our guest on today’s podcast has personal experience with this. We are welcoming Kathleen Richards, also known as The Property Management Coach. She’s also the brain behind PM Made Easy. There’s so much to talk about with Kathleen that...
Dec. 29, 2022

Retaining Employees and Clients in a Way that’s Purposeful and Profitable

Retaining Employees and Clients in a Way that’s Purposeful and Profitable: A Chat with Jan Leasure from Monterey Bay Property Management Wouldn’t it be nice if you had a team who was in it for the long haul? How do you define the long haul in property management? Is it 10 years or maybe 20 years? What about 30 years? Is it possible? It is. We’re talking to Jan Leasure, the owner of Monterey Bay Property Management. Her company has a great track record for employee retention, and they also do ...
Dec. 15, 2022

Managing Properties in One of the Country’s Toughest Places Without People-Pleasing

Managing Properties in One of the Country’s Toughest Places What does it take to get an amazing reputation, not just on Google, but also on Yelp? Our guests on the podcast today are from R.E.M. Residential. It’s one of the highest-rated residential property management companies in all of New York. They have not had a negative review, not even on Yelp, since 2017. How can they manage in one of the toughest markets in the world while keeping people happy without people-pleasing? We’re about to f...
Dec. 1, 2022

Balancing Profit, People, & Customer Experience

Note: The names in the video are swapped. The first guest shown is Tommy Chambers and the second is Chris Harold. We welcome you back to the Property Management Show with your hosts, Marie Tepman and Brittany Stephens. In Part 1 of our conversation with Chris and Tommy of Chambers Theory, we talked about how they used data and innovation to expand their customer lifetime value amidst area-specific market forces that tend to shorten it. Here, in Part 2, we’ll cover how they balance profits, peo...
Nov. 17, 2022

Expanding Customer Lifetime

Note: The names in the video are swapped. The first guest shown is Chris Harold and the second is Tommy Chambers. The Property Management Show is back with Marie Tepman and Brittany Stephens from Fourandhalf, and today we’re talking about customer lifetime value. When we think about customer lifetime value, the biggest variable that comes to mind is the length of time a customer stays with your company. But what happens when your service area is full of military or intelligence personnel, who on...
Nov. 3, 2022

Customer Lifetime Insights and Marketing with Marie

Customer Lifetime Insights and Marketing Let me ask you a question. When was the last time you made a big purchase? Imagine you realize that you need a new car. What would you do next? If you’re like most people, you would probably head over to Google or your preferred search engine. What would you type in that search bar? What results would you get back? Most of us would get some ads on top and then some search results with star ratings. You’ll probably see some articles with titles like “T...
Oct. 20, 2022

Customer Analytics with Aurelie Lemmens

Customer Analytics with Aurelie Lemmens Today’s guest on The Property Management Show is Aurelie Lemmens, an Associate Professor of Marketing at the Rotterdam School of Management, Erasmus University in The Netherlands, and Academic Director of the Expert Practice on Customer Analytics at the Erasmus Center for Data Analytics. Dr. Lemmens is an expert on the topic of customer churn and has written peer-reviewed papers on the topic. Defining Customer Analytics What does customer analytics mean,...